short cycle....take a look

**briansauras** · 08-02-2006, 02:09 PM

wk1-6 150mg prop ed
wk1-5 100mg tren ed
wk1-6 50mcg t3 ed

wk7-12
100mg clomid ed
20mg nolva ed
1000ui Vit E
150mcg clen ed

wk13-18 150mg prop ed
wk12-17 100mg tren ed
wk13-18 50mcg t3 ed

wk19-24
100mg clomid ed
20mg nolva ed
1000ui Vit E
150mcg clen ed

.............

**Xtralarg** · 08-02-2006, 02:24 PM

When I do 2 back to back short cycles I keep them to 4 weeks max. I have found that there are no mare gains beyond that point.

**briansauras** · 08-02-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by xtralarg

When I do 2 back to back short cycles I keep them to 4 weeks max. I have found that there are no mare gains beyond that point.

do you run around a gram and run the tren the same length as test?

**Xtralarg** · 08-02-2006, 03:09 PM

I usually run more, if you have nevr ran dosages like that before though then a gram should be fine. I also use different esters and stop the tren around day 20.

**briansauras** · 08-02-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by xtralarg

I usually run more, if you have nevr ran dosages like that before though then a gram should be fine. I also use different esters and stop the tren around day 20.

ive ran test @ 750mg for 16wks.

**Xtralarg** · 08-02-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by briansauras

ive ran test @ 750mg for 16wks.

At what point did your gains stop/slow down?

**briansauras** · 08-02-2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by xtralarg

At what point did your gains stop/slow down?

I think i gained the most from 8-13 as well as developed gyno around 11-12. In the last 3wks it just seemed like my body was adapting to the changes cause I always felt strong and never really had any ups and downs in strength like i had in previous wks. I also didnt lose much of anything which was unexpected.

**Xtralarg** · 08-03-2006, 12:53 AM

The best advice I can offer really is to try the sort cycles, experiment with them and find what works for you, I can only tell you what works for me.

Dont go crazy with the dosages either,150mg ed of prop + tren should be ample for you.......... more is not always better!

**ShnouzedUp** · 08-03-2006, 12:58 AM

im seein more short cycles around here now more than ever... they do make perfect sense tho

**thebrakes** · 08-03-2006, 01:10 AM

i would use different compounds in the 2 cycles. most find that back to back w/ the same stuff with little time in between doesnt yield much on the second leg. 100mg/tren /day is alot.

**Xtralarg** · 08-03-2006, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by thebrakes

i would use different compounds in the 2 cycles. most find that back to back w/ the same stuff with little time in between doesnt yield much on the second leg. 100mg/tren/day is alot.

All that would depend on the individual and their previous cycle experience. Some of my guys thrive on prop and can run it back to back. With him running relatively low dosages for a short cycle he needs a fast acting test, prop is obviously ideal. I have ran test e and c in short cycles but at much higher dosages,tren included, they work. If I were brainsauras and didnt want to run prop on the second leg then the only other ester I would consider at 150mg ed would be suspension and suffer the twice daily shots.

**G-Force** · 08-03-2006, 02:41 AM

hey brian

i am starting the same cycle - same doses too - (but using T4 not T3)

i am only running for 4 weeks however (damn at this dose its expensive)

i agree in using different compounds for your second cycle

i personally am going with test susp - Dbol - Var for my second run

good luck man

**SHOCKER2** · 08-03-2006, 10:25 AM

How much did you gain from this cycle?

**briansauras** · 08-03-2006, 12:43 PM

Ok so how about i use tren for the first run and npp for the 2nd?

Its basically the same thing as a 10wk cycle except there is a month break in the middle. shit they both even call for the same amount of aas

**G-Force** · 08-04-2006, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by SHOCKER2

How much did you gain from this cycle?

are u talking to me?
if so i cant tell u cos i havent started it yet
start in 4 weeks

**BigMaus** · 08-04-2006, 03:57 AM

Did a 4 weeker, gained 18 pounds.
I should have been more but the temperature here in Holland was killing me.
Eating was difficult.

All i can say is that i love these short cycles, they really work!!

**AleX-69** · 08-04-2006, 04:01 AM

18 pounds??... congrats bro!.. yeah and short cycles ftw.

**BigMaus** · 08-04-2006, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by AleX-69

18 pounds??... congrats bro!.. yeah and short cycles ftw.

Yes, but i am expecting to lose some of it during pct.
It was a good investment!!

Already planning a new one!

**briansauras** · 08-04-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by BigMaus

Yes, but i am expecting to lose some of it during pct.
It was a good investment!!

Already planning a new one!

Are you doing 4on, 4off, 4on and you just gained 18lbs in a month?
what was the cycle and whats ur experience if you dont mind me asking.

**BigMaus** · 08-04-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by briansauras

Are you doing 4on, 4off, 4on and you just gained 18lbs in a month?
what was the cycle and whats ur experience if you dont mind me asking.

Yes, i am doing 4 on and 4 off, and than again 4 on.
I did 2 weeks test e and tren e.
And after those 2 weeks i did prop and winny.

I f you want to know how much i did you can pm me.

**rodge** · 08-04-2006, 01:21 PM

good to see you here big maus

-rodge

**BigMaus** · 08-04-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by rodge

good to see you here big maus

-rodge

Thanx Rodge,
the boards in Holland are a bit concervative...really like it here!

**marcus300** · 08-05-2006, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by BigMaus

Did a 4 weeker, gained 18 pounds.
I should have been more but the temperature here in Holland was killing me.
Eating was difficult.

All i can say is that i love these short cycles, they really work!!

woow thats good results even tho the weather was hot, well done, the person who designed that for you must be very good !!!!

**BigMaus** · 08-05-2006, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

woow thats good results even tho the weather was hot, well done, the person who designed that for you must be very good !!!!

Very good?

I guess he is a nice guy.

But yes, i am very pleased with my results...short cycles for life!

**briansauras** · 08-05-2006, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

woow thats good results even tho the weather was hot, well done, the person who designed that for you must be very good !!!!

what kind of doses would you suggest for a 4cycle/1st short cycle. If I did a 10wk cycle i was planning on using the same dose :1g prop/700mg tren EW.

Would I see better results with maybe only using prop @ 1750mg EW for 4on/off/on?

previous cycles include
1-6 50mg dbol ed
1-10 500mg enth ew
11-12 50mg dbol ed

1-16 750mg enth ew
1-13 400mg deca ew
16-18 50mg prop ed

1-10 75mg prop ed
1-8 75mg tren ed
4-pct 100mg winny ed