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08-04-2006, 05:50 PM #41Originally Posted by Duke of Earl
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08-04-2006, 05:51 PM #42Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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08-04-2006, 05:53 PM #43
I just feel like the charts are always so broad.. the topic of sides just came up.. some ppl get sides on eq and not on test.. its all up to the individual..
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08-04-2006, 06:20 PM #442/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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true, good point, gives an expectation thta may or may not be met for some.
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08-04-2006, 07:09 PM #45Junior Member
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test e
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08-04-2006, 09:11 PM #46
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08-04-2006, 10:11 PM #47Originally Posted by C_Bino
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08-05-2006, 06:53 AM #48
I'd love to see a category on hepatoxicity of orals personally. and maybe some more information on Furazabol
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08-05-2006, 07:48 AM #49
I would like to see half-life of the different esters and orals, as well as the time it takes to level out (begin working 100%) in the body.
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08-05-2006, 07:56 AM #50Originally Posted by Wizeguy
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08-05-2006, 08:51 AM #51Writer
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Although there's alot of good ideas going around here....I think that some of them might be a bit advanced for the main page...keep in mind, most people are coming here to the main page (not the forums) looking for mostly beginners info. So they aren't going to know what Hepatoxicity is, or what aromatization is...maybe I'll do another, more advanced chart for the forums, and not the main page? The "effectiveness" chart, I think should focus on rating steroids and their effectiveness in different categories....
Fat loss, Weight gain, etc....
Keep the ideas coming, because now I'm thinking about doing a second chart, for the book and the forums ...an advanced one, more for people who want to know if a steroid can be 5a-reduced and stuff like that.
Also, lets get some ratings going....that's really what I need help on here....I want to know how the members rate different steroids, for different things, on a 1-10 basis.
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08-05-2006, 09:06 AM #52Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
strength - 4
Lean mass - 6
Fat loss - 2
Pump - 7
Sides - (gastric) 5
Coolness - 9
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08-05-2006, 11:37 AM #53
Tren -e
sides-8
strength-7
fat loss-8
muscle building-7 maybe 8
Test-e
sides-5
strength-6
fatloss-1
muscle building-6 maybe 7
Test cyp
sides-4
strength-6
fatloss-1
muscle building-7
Deca
sides-3
strength-8
fatloss-5 maybe 6
muscle building -8
EQ
sides-0
strength-2
fatloss-4
muscle building-3 (being nice too)
Drol
sides-7 maybe 8
strength-9
fatloss-1
muscle building-7 maybe 8 (directly or indirectly related to)
D-bol
sides-6
strength- 7 maybe 8
fatloss-0
muscle building 7 maybe 8 (directly or indirectly related to)
GH- a big fat 10
BG
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08-05-2006, 03:45 PM #54
^^^^ for more info.
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08-05-2006, 04:11 PM #552/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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I think each compound should be rated for experience level. So this way the new guys will not see a reating like tren and try and run it by it's self.
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08-05-2006, 05:30 PM #57Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
I would give it a 4 or 5 for strength, a low rating on weight gain, but ahigher rating on quality of gains.
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08-05-2006, 05:36 PM #582/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Wasnt for me. Made me strong as shit but, not quite as much as Dbol did. Not much else.
THe gains I wasnt guaging by the quality but the amount.
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08-05-2006, 07:05 PM #59Writer
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08-05-2006, 10:47 PM #60
sorry if anyone said anyhtign of what iom about to say cause i havent read this thread but
toxicity
ease at making the oral powder into an injectable (example: winny) but i am interested in this process for other orals too :-D
shut down
aromatize
progesterone related
water retention
agression
most common dose, miminum dose and highest effective dose
if its gonna dry out my knees (joints) or help them ( you could go from negative 10 to positive 10 on this one)
also include the androgen to anabolic ratio!
okay now i read the post:
dont leave things out just because they will confuse newbies!! include that anyway when they see words like aromatize they will be like what the hell is that and research it and maybe learn soemthign it can help them and also help us when we see the chart
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08-06-2006, 08:22 AM #61Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
Do you think we'll have an "average dose" category. I also thin k we need to differentiate between weight gain, and quality keepable gains. For example, Dbol 's weight gain will be extremely high, but the quality gain rating would be low because it tends to pack on water weight.
Test would have a lower weight gain rating, but a far higher quality/keepable gains rating.
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08-06-2006, 05:48 PM #62Writer
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Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
For fat burning, I think Tren would be a 10, and maybe pretty high in the Strength department as well....but night sweats, tren cough, possible impotence, etc...would also give it a pretty high side effects rating as well.
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08-06-2006, 06:02 PM #63
Here are a couple of my ratings.
Injectible
TrenStrength:7
Weight:7
Fat loss:9
Deca
Strength: 8
Weight: 8
Fat loss: 3
Test Enth
Strength: 7
Weight: 7
Fat loss: 6
Test Prop
Strength: 7
Weight: 7
Fat loss: 6
EQ
Strength: 5
Weight: 5
Fat loss: 5
Masteron
Strength: 6
Weight: 5
Fat loss: 7
Oral
Winstrol
Strength: 6
Weight: 4
Fat loss: 7
Dianabol
Strength: 9
Weight: 10
Fat loss: 2
Anadrol
Strength: 9
Weight: 10
Fat loss: 2
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08-06-2006, 06:24 PM #64
okay i hope this makes sense
put if its 17aa, dht, 19-nor.. classifications
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08-06-2006, 06:29 PM #65
Oral toxicity
If not already been covered.
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Originally Posted by C_Bino
Good post!!!!
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08-06-2006, 06:41 PM #672/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by one8nine
Good idea.
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08-06-2006, 06:59 PM #68Writer
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08-06-2006, 09:13 PM #69Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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Originally Posted by C_Bino
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08-06-2006, 09:49 PM #71
If no one has said it yet, I believe a category for the amount of experience that a person should have in their use history before using should be included... Example..
Experience: Testosterone would be 1 whereas Tren would fall under 10...as 10would mean you should have done quite an extensive amount of cycling before using tren..
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08-06-2006, 10:20 PM #72Originally Posted by mercedesdd
But yes I supposed it should be a 10 as I have never experienced anything better than it. It makes sense for it to get a 10.
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08-06-2006, 10:25 PM #73
Oral Turinabol = 10 Butt Gas
Last edited by Johny-too-small; 08-06-2006 at 10:28 PM.
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08-07-2006, 04:56 AM #74
hehehehehe
"Tittie Master"
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08-07-2006, 05:07 AM #75
I personally agree with Liftnainez
I personally dont think this should be done.. no offense though
I think the list posted now is pritty dam accurate. But it would be cool to see
something showing how some items are dependant on others. for ex. Deca and Test. Also if it's a cutting or bulking product.
Or even measure it's longevity?
But really as far as numbers go we really need a lab.
Thats my story and i'm stickin to it. lol
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08-07-2006, 06:11 AM #76Writer
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So what I'm basically looking for right now, is for everyone to tell me their perfect 10's. In other words, for fat loss, for strength gains, for weight gain, and for side effects, what would everyone rate as a 10? What's the most effective AAs you have ever used for those purposes?
I'm also going to factor in various steroids Anabolic Ratings to the ratings, and the androgenic ratings into some of the numbers as well, so there is a subjective portion to this (Steroid .com members ratings) as well as an objective portion (scientifically determined anabolic/androgenic ratings).Last edited by Property of Steroid.com; 08-07-2006 at 06:16 AM.
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08-07-2006, 06:22 AM #77
How can you label tren for fat loss with a score of 10 and then DNP with 10? A newbie would think they both great fat burners of Equal measure,just a thought.For me Strength drol and halo a perfect score.Dan Duchaine number one AAS was Stenbolone which is primo really,ability to keep gains these would get a perfect score.
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08-07-2006, 06:22 AM #78
Tbol 10 pump and lean
Anavar 10 Strength
The tests are hard to rate a 10 for anything, since they serve multiple purposes well.
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08-07-2006, 06:24 AM #79Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
if anavar is 10,I guess you have never done halo at high dose
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08-07-2006, 06:41 AM #80
Well i really don't know if this thread is going anywhere.. Reason is nobody has done every AAS out there so nobody can compare all AAS..
So for somebody Var rates 10 on strength (maybe because he hasn't tried other AAS) while for some others D-Bol or Halo rank 10. I for myself would skip all those "personal" expierences and go by the profiles and general consensus. This would be a more accurate Effectiveness Chart than some "uncomplete" user expierences mixed together.
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