Can I please get input from Tren users of 100mg+ ED?

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 12:25 AM

Runnin it 7 weeks at as much as I can handle up to 100mg ED.

What else could I expect other than the following:

night sweats
slightly increased aggression
possible hair loss
acne (Cant get any worse than it is now lol)

Please give as much info as you have time to put in (Length of cycle, what it included etc etc).

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Here is my current cycle:

1-14 500mg cyp
1-10 600mg Deca (Want to replace from week 6 on with tren )
1-4 40mg Dbol
8-16 80mg Var (Might discontinue if tren is enough)
6-13 tren a up to 100mg ED
.5mg Ldex ED (will add caber if tren is added)
(Possibly 60-80mcgs of LR3 3-4 days a week with 1ml on hand)
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I have had bloodwork done a couple weeks ago whcih luckily, everything basically came back OK besides my cholesterol and BP so I was thinking of what I could add to help with these. I have these already:

odorless garlic
Niacin

Thanks.

**Angel of death** · 08-07-2006, 12:26 AM

Thats a lot of shit bro lol damn

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Angel of death

Thats a lot of shit bro lol damn

Eh, not really.

**Angel of death** · 08-07-2006, 12:30 AM

I don't know I stick to the 500mgs of test/wk cycles =)

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Angel of death

I don't know I stick to the 500mgs of test/wk cycles =)

Thats all?

Test alone sucks for me.

**big daddy k de** · 08-07-2006, 12:34 AM

i woul have more test then deca in that ...i allways put my test atleast 100mg higer then deca ..dont want the deca dick :-)

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

i woul have more test then deca in that ...i allways put my test atleast 100mg higer then deca ..dont want the deca dick :-)

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

SQWUAK!!!!!!!!

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

i woul have more test then deca in that ...i allways put my test atleast 100mg higer then deca ..dont want the deca dick :-)

sorry.. test does not need to be higher than the deca to maintain sexual function.. thats a false rumor spreading/being parroted across the boards very rapidly..

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

SQWUAK!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!

**briansauras** · 08-07-2006, 12:49 AM

insomnia, agression, night sweats, acne, tren cough, inj pain, hairloss, no balls, extreme strength, huge apetite.

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 12:49 AM

Ahhh yes, HCG will be a good idea as well...

**MrMeathead** · 08-07-2006, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

sorry.. test does not need to be higher than the deca to maintain sexual function.. thats a false rumor spreading/being parroted across the boards very rapidly..

There is no sense in even trying to explain to others in the "internet bodybuilding community" that test doesn't have to be the base of every cycle. I was about to reply to that post too but decided to bite my tongue this time and not say anything. The myth will live on forever.

**big daddy k de** · 08-07-2006, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by MrMeathead

There is no sense in even trying to explain to others in the "internet bodybuilding community" that test doesn't have to be the base of every cycle. I was about to reply to that post too but decided to bite my tongue this time and not say anything. The myth will live on forever.

humm thanx guys ..im old school thats the way i was tought ..but thanx for the education

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

humm thanx guys ..im old school thats the way i was tought ..but thanx for the education

hey bro.. wasnt trying to be a dick.. just so many "old school" I guess u can say myths that just arent true.. just trying to clear it up... take care bro!

**BigMaus** · 08-07-2006, 01:44 AM

Ad smelling to your list.
I did 300mg tren e a day, and smelled like a horse.

**G-Force** · 08-07-2006, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by BigMaus

Ad smelling to your list.
I did 300mg tren e a day, and smelled like a horse.

thats prob your kidneys fcking up and producing ammonia through your sweat glands

happened to me after a test/deca /drol cycle

**stayinstacked** · 08-07-2006, 07:08 AM

IMO thats too much, especially w/ all the other compounds your running. I think you can get practically the same results running the tren @100mg eod.

RA · 08-07-2006, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

sorry.. test does not need to be higher than the deca to maintain sexual function.. thats a false rumor spreading/being parroted across the boards very rapidly..

That "rumor" has been around for a long time..and I would not say it if it didnt happen to me. I never comment on any aas that I havent tried nor do list any sides that I havent experienced. Deca dick is real and yes it helps to run the test higher to avoid it.

**rock75** · 08-07-2006, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by roidattack

That "rumor" has been around for a long time..and I would not say it if it didnt happen to me. I never comment on any aas that I havent tried nor do list any sides that I havent experienced. Deca dick is real and yes it helps to run the test higher to avoid it.

word

BG · 08-07-2006, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by BigMaus

Ad smelling to your list.
I did 300mg tren e a day, and smelled like a horse.

I get pretty bad B.O. from it also.

BG · 08-07-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by roidattack

That "rumor" has been around for a long time..and I would not say it if it didnt happen to me. I never comment on any aas that I havent tried nor do list any sides that I havent experienced. Deca dick is real and yes it helps to run the test higher to avoid it.

I had a loss of libido when running deca within 100 mgs of test, toward the end of cycle. Dic wouldnt stay hard the whole time, may have to do with me being a bit older .

**Anon Poster** · 08-07-2006, 09:43 AM

I didn't notice any difference in sides going from 50-75-100mg per day of tren .

**marcus300** · 08-07-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by roidattack

That "rumor" has been around for a long time..and I would not say it if it didnt happen to me. I never comment on any aas that I havent tried nor do list any sides that I havent experienced. Deca dick is real and yes it helps to run the test higher to avoid it.

Id agree with roidy on this one, ive tried it both ways and i feel and my body responds better with test higher, i understand everyone is different but i know alot who say the same thing on this one.

RA · 08-07-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I had a loss of libido when running deca within 100 mgs of test, toward the end of cycle. Dic wouldnt stay hard the whole time, may have to do with me being a bit older .

Thats how it happened to me. Toward the end of the cycle.. It was before I joined AR and I was wondering if this was normal with cycles...
I almost quit doing aas. Big with a useless penis..

At the time I was in my 20s..

**No One Knows** · 08-07-2006, 10:33 AM

I hate to say it...but the higher the tren dose, the better it works. and the best results from tren come AFTER the 7th-8th week.

Next time i run tren it will be near 1g a week and upwards of 10 weeks.

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by roidattack

That "rumor" has been around for a long time..and I would not say it if it didnt happen to me. I never comment on any aas that I havent tried nor do list any sides that I havent experienced. Deca dick is real and yes it helps to run the test higher to avoid it.

sorry bro.. cant believe you there... maybe deca dick is real, but so far hasnt happend to ALL my CLOSE friends.. EVER.. they ran a test as 250 mg a week and deca at 600 and were more than fine.. i guess to each his own, but i really believe you do not need test higher than the deca.. for me this is a fact, but hey..

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by rock75

word

what are you wording.. explain your word please.. do you have any input?

**one8nine** · 08-07-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

i woul have more test then deca in that ...i allways put my test atleast 100mg higer then deca ..dont want the deca dick :-)

oh now i get it.. so if i have 500mg of test.. and i have 600mg of deca .. its really like JUST HAVING 100mg of deca in my system cause... the deca and test cancel eachother out right?

i mean i always thought that 500mg of test would give me some sort of sex drive but now i learned from you that the deca DESTROYS test and i will no longer have 10x the average value of test in my system, i will have none and my penis will fall off

thanks for the good info

**one8nine** · 08-07-2006, 12:22 PM

i have 2 friends that did 500mg of deca a week ONLY for 10 weeks and they are both in pct and BOTH of them said that their sex drive has never been better

also i have a friend that is in pct from a 500mg per week cycle of EQ ONLY and he said his sex drive was UNAFFECTED in a positive OR negative way

i ran test 250, deca 250, tren 600 each week for 10 weeks and had ZERO sexual disfuntion, sex drive did not increase and nor did it decrease

BG · 08-07-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by roidattack

Thats how it happened to me. Toward the end of the cycle.. It was before I joined AR and I was wondering if this was normal with cycles...
I almost quit doing aas. Big with a useless penis..

At the time I was in my 20s..

I hear ya!

**Huckster** · 08-07-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

oh now i get it.. so if i have 500mg of test.. and i have 600mg of deca .. its really like JUST HAVING 100mg of deca in my system cause... the deca and test cancel eachother out right?

i mean i always thought that 500mg of test would give me some sort of sex drive but now i learned from you that the deca DESTROYS test and i will no longer have 10x the average value of test in my system, i will have none and my penis will fall off

thanks for the good info

ROTFL!

RA · 08-07-2006, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

what are you wording.. explain your word please.. do you have any input?

Ill try to help. That means he agrees.

RA · 08-07-2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

sorry bro.. cant believe you there... maybe deca dick is real, but so far hasnt happend to ALL my CLOSE friends.. EVER.. they ran a test as 250 mg a week and deca at 600 and were more than fine.. i guess to each his own, but i really believe you do not need test higher than the deca.. for me this is a fact, but hey..

Yes, and as you know I am in the habit of making stuff up just to throw the good bros at AR off.

RA · 08-07-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

i have 2 friends that did 500mg of deca a week ONLY for 10 weeks and they are both in pct and BOTH of them said that their sex drive has never been better

also i have a friend that is in pct from a 500mg per week cycle of EQ ONLY and he said his sex drive was UNAFFECTED in a positive OR negative way

i ran test 250, deca 250, tren 600 each week for 10 weeks and had ZERO sexual disfuntion, sex drive did not increase and nor did it decrease

Good for you.

**Swifto** · 08-07-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Ahhh yes, HCG will be a good idea as well...

HCG with a 19-Nor derived androgen, yes.

**Liftnainez** · 08-07-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by roidattack

Yes, and as you know I am in the habit of making stuff up just to throw the good bros at AR off.

lol sorry bro.. you prob took my post the wrong way.. I didnt mean it like that.. I guess what I mean to say is that thankfully it doesnt happen in any case and never really experienced or seen it first hand.. i guess each person is different though.. no hard feeling bro

RA · 08-07-2006, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

lol sorry bro.. you prob took my post the wrong way.. I didnt mean it like that.. I guess what I mean to say is that thankfully it doesnt happen in any case and never really experienced or seen it first hand.. i guess each person is different though.. no hard feeling bro

None.

**rock75** · 08-07-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by roidattack

Ill try to help. That means he agrees.

thanks for explaining it to him

**guest589745** · 08-07-2006, 05:11 PM

^^^^

RA · 08-07-2006, 10:32 PM

1-14 750mg cyp
1-10 600mg Deca
1-4 40mg Dbol
8-16 80mg Var (Might discontinue if tren is enough)
1-10 tren a up to 100mg ED
.5mg Ldex ED (will add caber if tren is added)
(Possibly 60-80mcgs of LR3 3-4 days a week with 1ml on hand)

This is how I would run it.