Do you Use clen or not

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 01:46 PM

Just curious to see how all you guys use it. I was thinking about throwing into PCT, the possibility of cardiac hypertrophy scares me!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-06-2006, 01:53 PM

I never have used it and never will.....

Whats your BF % at?

**Timm1704** · 08-06-2006, 01:53 PM

cardiac hypertrophy occurs from weight training, cardio, exerice in general my friend, steroid use will speed things up, as the weight gain on the body will be more substantial. i wouldnt let it bother you

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

I never have used it and never will.....

Whats your BF % at?

I dont want to use clen for fat loss...I really wanted to use it to keep cortisol levels down during PCT

**Smak** · 08-06-2006, 01:56 PM

I use only the EC minus the A stack.

I won't use clen again.

Not worth it IMO.

**Pillbass** · 08-06-2006, 01:57 PM

I used it both ways. Just finished the last of mine this AM. When cycling I used T3 with it also. Can't complain about the product working though I have really slimmed down on my wastline.
Only problem I don't like the jittery, shakey feeling I get so I am gonna chill on it for awhile.

**gixxerboy1** · 08-06-2006, 02:49 PM

My girl uses it all the time.

**Hackamaniac** · 08-06-2006, 02:59 PM

never used it.

**KINGKONG** · 08-06-2006, 03:07 PM

Ive used clen too much..Iam sick of feeling like crap being too hot, the headaches not to metion the stuff flat out can't be good for you with the way it makes your heart beat..Iam a diet only guy in the future..Unless your competing I would find clen or T3 unnecessary..

**KINGKONG** · 08-06-2006, 03:08 PM

It does work though..Ive taken pounds off my body quick with clen and T3!

**MrMeathead** · 08-06-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Pillbass

I used it both ways. Just finished the last of mine this AM. When cycling I used T3 with it also. Can't complain about the product working though I have really slimmed down on my wastline.
Only problem I don't like the jittery, shakey feeling I get so I am gonna chill on it for awhile.

I can't take that jittery/shaky feeling either. I had to stop my clen cycle a few days ago. I went into a job interview shaking like I was withdrawing from crack or some shit and ambarrased the sh!t out of myself.

**axiomatic6** · 08-06-2006, 05:12 PM

i never thought clen did much of anything, i was a huge dissapointment for me. i have always found ephedrine to work better for me b/c it kills your appetite and give you more energy for more cardio. clen doesnt kill my appetite or give me energy, nor did i noticemuch fat loss at all. but i have swore of ephedrine too, it is like being a drug addict, you start to not be able to funciton without it, and then it stops wroking...stops giving you energy and styarts making you tired, then if you try to stop you are even more tired and cant even make it through a day, it is a quick fix but you pay for it in the end and most of what you lose comes back when you have to stop, and trust me you do have to stop, you cannot take ephedrine for ever.

**MrMeathead** · 08-06-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by axiomatic6

i never thought clen did much of anything, i was a huge dissapointment for me. i have always found ephedrine to work better for me b/c it kills your appetite and give you more energy for more cardio. clen doesnt kill my appetite or give me energy, nor did i noticemuch fat loss at all. but i have swore of ephedrine too, it is like being a drug addict, you start to not be able to funciton without it, and then it stops wroking...stops giving you energy and styarts making you tired, then if you try to stop you are even more tired and cant even make it through a day, it is a quick fix but you pay for it in the end and most of what you lose comes back when you have to stop, and trust me you do have to stop, you cannot take ephedrine for ever.

What was the dosage of clen you ran and for how long did you run it for?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-06-2006, 05:34 PM

Ephedrine almost made me have a heart attack.

No way in hell am I doing that or clen ever again. Anything that effects my body temp/heart beats is a big no.

**Tren Bull** · 08-06-2006, 05:36 PM

hell yea i use clenbuterol . i dont want to sacrafice any of my gains, even if that means im gonna damage my body even more

but i only use it during pct.

**MrMeathead** · 08-06-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Ephedrine almost made me have a heart attack.

No way in hell am I doing that or clen ever again. Anything that effects my body temp/heart beats is a big no.

I have high BP soo I think i might be going your route and ditching it also.

**briansauras** · 08-06-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by MrMeathead

I have high BP soo I think i might be going your route and ditching it also.

uhh aas will raise your bp too. so i guess you will never use again?

**MrMeathead** · 08-06-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by briansauras

uhh aas will raise your bp too. so i guess you will never use again?

I know, I know.

But AAS doesn't make my BP raise to a dangerous level like clen with my low dose of benicar and not only that but it doesn't shake like a crackhead going through withdrawals and most of all it doesn't make me feel like my heart is going to pound out of my chest. I can not function in normal society while on clen. I highly doubt that I will never use clen again but it is just that I hate the feeling of being on it.

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 06:15 PM

How do you guys feel about just using it for 2-3 weeks in PCT to keep cortisol down and stay anti catabolic till i get the boys working again?

**briansauras** · 08-06-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Samson7

How do you guys feel about just using it for 2-3 weeks in PCT to keep cortisol down and stay anti catabolic till i get the boys working again?

Ive always used it in mine.

**pumpd4lif** · 08-06-2006, 08:36 PM

thats the only reason i take it for the anti cat....

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by pumpd4lif

thats the only reason i take it for the anti cat....

What dose do you take it at for PCT i imagine a little lower than if you were taking it for fat burning purposes? I think I read 60mcg every other day or something...let me know

**yom** · 08-07-2006, 03:03 AM

dosent do much for me . the stuff is like weed kill spray from where i live .

**marcus300** · 08-07-2006, 07:18 AM

use it for pct, had no problems with it only positives

**stayinstacked** · 08-07-2006, 07:20 AM

I only use it precontest, so I couldnt vote on your poll because that choice isnt there

**Ejuicer** · 08-07-2006, 07:39 AM

I use clen and t3 almost every time that I cut. I've had phenomenal results with both and the only negatives i've ever had were some shakes.

**cfiler** · 08-07-2006, 10:29 AM

I loved clen for cutting. I would definately use it in PCT. Everyone reacts differently to it, and for me, it works well.

**billnsasha** · 08-07-2006, 11:12 AM

I only used 60mcg a day so I never had the shakes. I carefully monitored my vitals. It never effected my heart rate or BP. I just had that toasty feeling as if I'd been sunbathing. Some people take way too much and not being careful enough.

The stuff I used was also Pharmacy grade (from Mexico) and cheap.

**Samson7** · 08-07-2006, 01:33 PM

How is the liquid clen from Lion... I am still on the bubble about the research chems. Do you guys use the research chemical clen?

**MrMeathead** · 08-07-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by billnsasha

I only used 60mcg a day so I never had the shakes. I carefully monitored my vitals. It never effected my heart rate or BP. I just had that toasty feeling as if I'd been sunbathing. Some people take way too much and not being careful enough.

The stuff I used was also Pharmacy grade (from Mexico) and cheap.

60 mcg of clen per day made me soo shaky I couldn't sign my signature with a pen. It is liquid clen though soo maybe it is just overdosed. I also have some pharmacy grade from mexica and haven't given that a shot yet.

**Ejuicer** · 08-07-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by MrMeathead

60 mcg of clen per day made me soo shaky I couldn't sign my signature with a pen. It is liquid clen though soo maybe it is just overdosed. I also have some pharmacy grade from mexica and haven't given that a shot yet.

The shakes normally subside after a couple days. Is it a research chem or is a brand name liquid?

**Zelos** · 08-07-2006, 04:38 PM

better to scared about steroids cardiac hypertrophy than clen

clen is good for a pct , because of it's anticatabolism capability

**shortie** · 08-07-2006, 04:41 PM

Won't use it again, it is effective for fat loss, but not worth the sides IMO.

**MrMeathead** · 08-07-2006, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ejuicer

The shakes normally subside after a couple days. Is it a research chem or is a brand name liquid?

Check your PM's bro.

**MrMeathead** · 08-07-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by shortie

Won't use it again, it is effective for fat loss, but not worth the sides IMO.

What sides did you get other than the jittery feeling?

**shortie** · 08-07-2006, 04:44 PM

The worst was the shakes, which continued for months after I stopped taking it. That was the scariest part, any kind of fine motor movement, as simple as setting my watch, became almost impossible and like I say it didn't stop when I did. It really only began to subside about 8 months or so after I quit it. I still do an ECA stack, but my body does not like clen that's for dang sure.

**MrMeathead** · 08-07-2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by shortie

The worst was the shakes, which continued for months after I stopped taking it. That was the scariest part, any kind of fine motor movement, as simple as setting my watch, became almost impossible and like I say it didn't stop when I did. It really only began to subside about 8 months or so after I quit it. I still do an ECA stack, but my body does not like clen that's for dang sure.

That is the same reason I forced myself to stop. I swear I was soo shaky that my signature would make any doctor's signature look pretty.

CLEN +WORK=IMPOSSIBLE!

**lifttothemax** · 08-07-2006, 05:05 PM

I am going to use clen !

**rake922** · 08-08-2006, 05:47 PM

Those options listed are phucked..

**Samson7** · 08-08-2006, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

Those options listed are phucked..

Alright then, what option do you want? I using the poll for my benefit to see how/why most people used clen . If you want better options make a poll and put whatever options in there you would like.