how much should i use at once?

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 12:32 PM

Hey i have bottle of t4 and i was wondering should i inject 3ccs once a week or less? or should i break it down into two injections a week? any help would be appretiated. thank you

RA · 08-06-2006, 12:36 PM

Your talking about test I take it...not cytomel ?

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 12:40 PM

test 400.

RA · 08-06-2006, 12:44 PM

This your first cycle? 1200mgs sounds like a lot per week.

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 12:45 PM

yeah its my first but i wanted to start it soon. i want to make sure i do it all right though. what would you recomend i do?

RA · 08-06-2006, 12:51 PM

No more than 500mgs/wk. Since the test is 400 you might just want to do 1/2 cc every 3.5 days. Is your diet and pct in order?

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 12:52 PM

yeah. i eat really well. so 2ccs is too much then?

**DDDNTZ** · 08-06-2006, 12:52 PM

Read.....a lot.

**DDDNTZ** · 08-06-2006, 12:54 PM

If you put two cc's of t4 into a virgin muscle, brother you gonna be in for a hurtin'.

RA · 08-06-2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by brad1986

yeah. i eat really well. so 2ccs is too much then?

Way too much. You would just be wasting the gear.

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 01:01 PM

so what do you mean in for a hurtin? my ass will be sore?

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by DDDNTZ

If you put two cc's of t4 into a virgin muscle, brother you gonna be in for a hurtin'.

True...Bro if you do that I promise you, you wont be able to walk or sleep for a week. My first cycle I used T400 and I was only doing 300mg/wk, So my first shot was less than half a CC of it and I could not even roll over in bed. I ended up doing fine after the first shot, but I imagine that you would not get too used to 2-3 CC's per week

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 01:09 PM

so you think once a week 1cc should be fine or should i go less?

**DDDNTZ** · 08-06-2006, 01:11 PM

That's fine, but split it up into two doses-1/2cc monday morning and 1/2cc Thursday evening. Do you have your pct yet?

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 01:19 PM

i dont have the pct yet. would anything at GNC be sufficient for that or do i need clomid

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by DDDNTZ

That's fine, but split it up into two doses-1/2cc monday morning and 1/2cc Thursday evening. Do you have your pct yet?

Ditto...no doubt. T400 isnt the cleanest test either. Gave me some acne on shoulders and back. Im taking Test Cyp from a legit UGL and no sides just strength and size

RA · 08-06-2006, 01:20 PM

Do some reading over in the pct forum. Very informative.

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 01:23 PM

cool. thanks guys. appretiate your help.

**DDDNTZ** · 08-06-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by brad1986

i dont have the pct yet. would anything at GNC be sufficient for that or do i need clomid

You will absolutely need some clomid and nolvadex . Do not buy any of that crap from GNC, ity is a total rip. There is a banner at the top of right corner of this page that says research chems, click on it and you will find what you need.

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 07:46 PM

so i took 1cc in the glute and im not sore at all. is that good or bad? if i should split it up would you recomemnd my next injection be 1/2cc 3.5 days later and then just go from there or should i wait a whole week before injecting again since i already shot a whole cc?

**guest589745** · 08-06-2006, 07:51 PM

As much as you can handle lol. j/k....kinda.

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by brad1986

so i took 1cc in the glute and im not sore at all. is that good or bad? if i should split it up would you recomemnd my next injection be 1/2cc 3.5 days later and then just go from there or should i wait a whole week before injecting again since i already shot a whole cc?

If you have never taken a shot before...you are going to be sore as hell tomorrow and even worse the next couple days. Let us know how it goes.

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 08:47 PM

well i did this yesterday and i feel fine. does this mean i didnt hit muscle? u pulled back on the plunger and there was no blood. so i thought i hit it right. i didnt evn feel it go in.

**one8nine** · 08-06-2006, 09:26 PM

its not the injection that hurts its when your body absorbs the BA and BB and theres nothing to hold the crystals in solution in the oil and it crashes in sharp pointy spikes into your muscle this may take a few days

(atleast thats the idea i got of why EO is painless compared to ooil cause it holds solution without BA and BB)

i say 3.5 days from now do 1/2 cc and just continue like that. the extra 1/2 cc in your first shot wont hurt just pretend you didnt do it and move on like youre doing 1/2 cc 2x a week

SVTMuscle* · 08-06-2006, 09:29 PM

Age/Stats/Goals/Expeirence....??

**brad1986** · 08-06-2006, 09:41 PM

im 165lbs 20 years old. i have trained 5 days a week every week for a little over a year now. running only on creatines and protiens. i want to reach about 185

**Samson7** · 08-06-2006, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by brad1986

im 165lbs 20 years old. i have trained 5 days a week every week for a little over a year now. running only on creatines and protiens. i want to reach about 185

you are not going to want to here this but you are not ready for anabolics. Besides you being too young, you need to focus on diet and training to bulk naturally for at least two more years. Steroids are not an easy way out.