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    i am honestly just giving advice based on my witnessing it be done with nice results........i never raised his hopes high, he shouldnt be expecting 14 lb. and 6% bf drop.... just a nice gaon of strength and decent cutting

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger909
    i am honestly just giving advice based on my witnessing it be done with nice results........i never raised his hopes high, he shouldnt be expecting 14 lb. and 6% bf drop.... just a nice gaon of strength and decent cutting


    Fair enough.

    I'm just saying it's impossible to bulk then cut in a 6 week cycle. & that depends on your diet not your compounds you use. It takes months to bulk or cut.

    I just think there are better routes to take for him. I ran oral cycles before , because of specific goals/reasons. Never because I was scared of needles. And never would I do the cycle you have proposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger909
    i am honestly just giving advice based on my witnessing it be done with nice results........i never raised his hopes high, he shouldnt be expecting 14 lb. and 6% bf drop.... just a nice gaon of strength and decent cutting
    this thread contains some of the worst advice ever. All he will get off running those 2 compounds at those dosages for that length is some unwanted side effects.

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    i know this cycle doesnt commpare to a test cycle (im getting ready for my first in jan) but the mans given what he has to work with, and i am familiar with what rsults it will yield so i just gave suggestons...never once did i claim of great results, but anyone that says hes getting absolutely nothing off this cycle is mistaken, these are two very effective orals

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    I dont understand ppl that say "this is what is available to me" If these truly are the only compounds available then dont do them. I would save my pennies and invest in a better cycle.

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    lack of knowledge,that is what that cycle is and winny as a cutter isnt shit without proper diet it is used to harden up precontest it cuts fat no better then any other aas

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    I've done a cycle earlier with 5 weeks of Winny @50 ED + Dbol @30mg ED, didn't do much. I put on 5kg (appr.10lb) and kept most of it.

    It's not a very adviceable cycle...

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    his pb is that he can't get AAS ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streitingen
    I've done a cycle earlier with 5 weeks of Winny @50 ED + Dbol @30mg ED, didn't do much. I put on 5kg (appr.10lb) and kept most of it.

    It's not a very adviceable cycle...
    10 lbs in 5 weeks is a very effective short cycle.....

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    I also hear about ppl putting on 20lbs from anavar only cycles......

    I'm sure Dbol & winstrol would produce gains. Longer durations would have to be used. Quite frankly I would rather do Tbol/Var. + Again there is no way in hell you can bulk 3 weeks then cut 3 weeks.

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    If I would use dbol + Winstrol I would run it like this,

    Weeks 1-8 Dbol 30mgs WIN 50mgs +

    But the only reason I ran oral cycles was because of I used what didn't aromatize + had very short detection times.

    ^^^ If it wasn't for that I would have done a better cycle using injectables and less stress on liver with less oral mgs. Not just because, all i have access to......

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    Personally I wouldn't stack these to compounds together again. I'll recommend you to stick with only one of them (if you don't get hold of some better juice). The winny can be run @50-100mg for 4-8 weeks, and the dbols @30-50mg for 4-8 weeks. Remember to start PCT the day after last AS, and some will advice you to have some nolva on hand during cycle on dbols.
    PS! Stacking winny with clen can give good results...

    Good luck!

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    Both Dbol and Winstrol are extreamly liver toxic. It not a good idea to mix them, or run them back to back.

    You should research more, and come up with a better cycle. If your source can only get you those compounds, then your source sucks, and they are probably fakes.

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