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**briansauras** · 08-17-2006, 01:12 AM

run t3 all the way up to pct and raising my cals by 500? i mean i am using clen during pct so hopefully if im not fully recovered it might help with weight gain right?

**briansauras** · 08-17-2006, 06:51 AM

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**magic32** · 08-17-2006, 08:03 AM

As for caloric increase, timing is very individual, regardless of the compounds being used (aas cycle, Clen , T3, etc.) you need to be able to gauge your body's fuel demands and adjust consumption increases accordingly throughout your cycle. Kick-in time varies with the person and therefore caloric increases cannot be strictly formatted.

T3 can be beneficial both during cycle and in pct. Many often speak of it in relation to pct for its obvious metabolic optimization and protein synthesizing properties. But I like it in both scenarios for the very same reasons, additionally, Hooker proposed using it early as a kick start to fat reduction.

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**briansauras** · 08-17-2006, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

As for caloric increase, timing is very individual, regardless of the compounds being used (aas cycle, Clen , T3, etc.) you need to be able to gauge your body's fuel demands and adjust consumption increases accordingly throughout your cycle. Kick-in time varies with the person and therefore caloric increases cannot be strictly formatted.

T3 can be beneficial both during cycle and in pct. Many often speak of it in relation to pct for its obvious metabolic optimization and protein synthesizing properties. But I like it in both scenarios for the very same reasons, additionally, Hooker proposed using it early as a kick start to fat reduction.

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I wanted to raise cals(to maintaince) so that i would not lose gains since right now I am on a cutting diet and I am sure I would lose alot coming off. Therefore the only reason I am discontinuing the use t3 would be due to its catabolic effects when not taking with aas.

**magic32** · 08-17-2006, 08:37 AM

Raising calories would be insensible here.

Anyone desirous of preserving muscle while cutting should not employ T3. There is no accurate way to counter its catabolic effects as it seeks fuel indiscriminately. This means that it could care less about your ready glycogen or bloodstream levels, it'll pull resources from multiple sites...blood, stomach, intestines, liver, fat and sadly muscle.

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**briansauras** · 08-17-2006, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

Raising calories would be insensible here.

Anyone desirous of preserving muscle while cutting should not employ T3. There is no accurate way to counter its catabolic effects as it seeks fuel indiscriminately. This means that it could care less about your ready glycogen or bloodstream levels, it'll pull resources from multiple sites...blood, stomach, intestines, liver, fat and sadly muscle.

M.

So you are telling me using t3 during a cutting cycle is a bad idea? I also dont see how raising cals is a bad idea since many guys on here preach it as a great way to maintain gains coming off. If i were to stay at these cals with this amount of activity not to mention coming off of aas my body would deff be in a catabolic state and im sure I would be losing muscle.

**magic32** · 08-17-2006, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by briansauras

So you are telling me using t3 during a cutting cycle is a bad idea? I also dont see how raising cals is a bad idea since many guys on here preach it as a great way to maintain gains coming off. If i were to stay at these cals with this amount of activity not to mention coming off of aas my body would deff be in a catabolic state and im sure I would be losing muscle.

Without the influence of aas...yes!
On cycle, or while still being influenced by cycle drugs when returning to normalcy...no!

If you still have aas in your system, there is really no question. As you stated everyone does that for a reason...namely they're catabolically safe!

So maybe I misunderstood your initial question.

M.

**briansauras** · 08-17-2006, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

Without the influence of aas...yes!
On cycle, or while still being influenced by cycle drugs when returning to normalcy...no!

If you still have aas in your system, there is really no question. As you stated everyone does that for a reason...namely they're catabolically safe!

So maybe I misunderstood your initial question.

M.

Im on prop/tren so i will be starting pct 3days after last shot.

**magic32** · 08-17-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by briansauras

run t3 all the way up to pct and raising my cals by 500? i mean i am using clen during pct so hopefully if im not fully recovered it might help with weight gain right?

T3 is would be great here. My mistake.

M.

**cfiler** · 08-17-2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by briansauras

run t3 all the way up to pct and raising my cals by 500? i mean i am using clen during pct so hopefully if im not fully recovered it might help with weight gain right?

Yup, that sounds good.