deca for joints??????

**runnningman** · 08-18-2006, 12:37 PM

Hello
Im thinking of throwing in about 50 mg deca /week for the joints under my cycle.
And if thats a good idea, do anyone know if deca in that little amount still kills your own testo production, so that it means you still have to use clomid and HCG , after the cycle?
runnningman

**V_Vandetta** · 08-18-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by runnningman

Hello
Im thinking of throwing in about 50 mg deca /week for the joints under my cycle.
And if thats a good idea, do anyone know if deca in that little amount still kills your own testo production, so that it means you still have to use clomid and HCG , after the cycle?
runnningman

IMO no that low amount of deca is very safe and many research studies proven that deca helped retain joint and muscle fuction while adding mass In HIV people ... But there is always a chance but i dont think 50Mg a week will yeild any sides but all the benifits

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:03 PM

You need more deca .
I would run atleast 100mgs of deca to benefit from lubed joints......
But if your running it , why not run it right?
That amount of deca will shut you down....Are you running test? If you are dont worry, you will be shut down from the test anyways...

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

IMO no that low amount of deca is very safe and many research studies proven that deca helped retain joint and muscle fuction while adding mass In HIV people ... But there is always a chance but i dont think 50Mg a week will yeild any sides but all the benifits

50mgs a week are you serious?

50mgs will yeild 0 benefits and only negatives.

**V_Vandetta** · 08-18-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

50mgs a week are you serious?

50mgs will yeild 0 benefits and only negatives.

bro there are plenty of medical studies with low dose of deca helping people just becasue we as BB require much Higer dosage for a much different result I will be happy to dig up the medical studies that was conducted with people with HIV

**runnningman** · 08-18-2006, 02:17 PM

ok maybe then ill dont use deca att all iwanted it just for my joints when i do some running.
IM thinking 3 month
1-12 200mg/Week EQ
1-4 200 mg/week test e
5-8 primo 300-400 mg /week
9-12 test prop 100mgs/Every other Day
im not looking to be the Hulk just wanna be 200-210 pounds hard??

BG · 08-18-2006, 02:19 PM

150 mg worked well for me, now its part of my trt.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by runnningman

ok maybe then ill dont use deca att all iwanted it just for my joints when im doing some running
IM thinking 3 month
1-12 200mg/Week EQ
1-4 200 mg/week test e
5-8 primo 300-400 mg /week
9-12 test prop 100mgs/Every other Day
im not looking to be the Hulk just wanna be 200-210 pounds hard??

Bro that cycle is horrible....

Doses are to low.

Weeks are whack.

To many compounds.

How tall are you?

& Research.

**shortie** · 08-18-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by runnningman

ok maybe then ill dont use deca att all iwanted it just for my joints when im doing some running
IM thinking 3 month
1-12 200mg/Week EQ
1-4 200 mg/week test e
5-8 primo 300-400 mg /week
9-12 test prop 100mgs/Every other Day
im not looking to be the Hulk just wanna be 200-210 pounds hard??

Not one to insist that there is a hard set rule to cycling and what will make you grow, but IMO, 4 wks of E at 200 mg will do jack shit for you, and 3 weeks of primo??? I know you're not wanting to be the hulk but there is a much better way to run a light 12 week cycle than what you have laid out.

What if any is your past cycle experience??

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

bro there are plenty of medical studies with low dose of deca helping people just becasue we as BB require much Higer dosage for a much different result I will be happy to dig up the medical studies that was conducted with people with HIV

How dose a dose of 50mgs benefit ppl.

I would be worse off than being natty on that dosage.

Your natty test would be suppressed if not shutdown with in weeks.

You can't possibly think you can gain muscle on 50mgs a week do you?

50mgs wouldnt even produce any bloat which in turn would lube your joints.

Have you even ran deca ?

**V_Vandetta** · 08-18-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Bro that cycle is horrible....

Doses are to low.

Weeks are whack.

To many compounds.

How tall are you?

& Research.

Man I am sorry I need to read the threads better .... I didnt think he was running a cycle but just asking that if deca was ok for added water for joints ... and good call bro ........ and you are right cycle is way off

**runnningman** · 08-18-2006, 02:26 PM

im 6 feet, 215 pounds 28 year 20%bf
but id like to work at my running,
im no BB i do little of everything running,climbing,MMA fighting,bicyckling etc

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by runnningman

im 6 feet, 215 pounds 28 year 20%bf
but id like to work at my running,
im no BB i do little of everything running,climbing,MMA fighting,bicyckling etc

Well do alot of it and maybe you'll lose weight.

Diet/cardio burn fat not those aas you listed.

**runnningman** · 08-18-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

How dose a dose of 50mgs benefit ppl.

I would be worse off than being natty on that dosage.

Your natty test would be suppressed if not shutdown with in weeks.

You can't possibly think you can gain muscle on 50mgs a week do you?

50mgs wouldnt even produce any bloat which in turn would lube your joints.

Have you even ran deca?

My idea was to add little deca to the cycle cause of the joints only, but i skip that now seems worthless

**shortie** · 08-18-2006, 02:31 PM

But have you ever cycled AAS??

**runnningman** · 08-18-2006, 02:35 PM

y but my main reason to use aas is to be able to keep a high train dose so i can low my bf and gain some strength and bench maybe 150 kg and do 8 miles in 42
min

**V_Vandetta** · 08-18-2006, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

How dose a dose of 50mgs benefit ppl.

I would be worse off than being natty on that dosage.

Your natty test would be suppressed if not shutdown with in weeks.

You can't possibly think you can gain muscle on 50mgs a week do you?

50mgs wouldnt even produce any bloat which in turn would lube your joints.

Have you even ran deca?

YES I have ran deca countless times ... And i said i read the post wrong .. so but in medical research 50-100 mgs of deca in group A and 100-150 mg in groupB and 200-250 in group C all groups subjects had a increase in bodymass and muscle denstity ... now granted these are people with HIV and the ones receving the higher Mg doasge had far better results BUT EVEN THE LOW DOSE GROUP SHOWED IMPROVMENT .... So whats that say that even at a low dose IT WILL WORK ... It will differ from people to people ...

I myself have run deca dosages of 1200mg but sides were bad .. but at 800mg very little sides with GREAT GAINS and 600mg NO SIDES and ok gains so please bro there is no set rule for dosages just have to find your own and and a safe range to start is 300mg ...

**shortie** · 08-18-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by runnningman

y but my main reason to use aas is to be able to keep a high train dose so i can low my bf and gain some strength and bench maybe 150 kg and do 8 miles in 42
min

Ok so without all the ester complications and misapplication of gear, you could run a cycle like this:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 400mg/ wk
Weeks 1-12 EQ 400 mgs/ wk
Weeks 13/14 Test prop 100 mg EOD
Then PCT Beginning week 15
You will not accidentally turn into the hulk on this cycle, just ain't gonna happen, but you will get some soild quality gains that should be fairly easy to maintain post cycle. Ans trust me, the doses are light as that is the nature of the cycle you wanted.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 08-18-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

YES I have ran deca countless times ... And i said i read the post wrong .. so but in medical research 50-100 mgs of deca in group A and 100-150 mg in groupB and 200-250 in group C all groups subjects had a increase in bodymass and muscle denstity ... now granted these are people with HIV and the ones receving the higher Mg doasge had far better results BUT EVEN THE LOW DOSE GROUP SHOWED IMPROVMENT .... So whats that say that even at a low dose IT WILL WORK ... It will differ from people to people ...

I myself have run deca dosages of 1200mg but sides were bad .. but at 800mg very little sides with GREAT GAINS and 600mg NO SIDES and ok gains so please bro there is no set rule for dosages just have to find your own and and a safe range to start is 300mg ...

I can't see HIV patients gaining muscle and weight off of 50mgs. Aren't they wasting away as it is? Hell I couldn't gain off it and I'm healthy. I've read they take very high doses in HGH etc. But what improvement did they show? How can one measure if the deca lubed there joints? Just by asking the guy....hey how your joints feel today....the feel good....by god the Deca works!

1200mgs of deca I bet you were blimped, did you run test with it? super blimp lol. My buddy ran deca/winstrol cycle, his first cycle and he accidently ran 2500mgs in one week! ahhhahahha it was funny but he didnt blimp up

Winstrol!

I agree a safe/better starting point would be 300mgs.