Winstrol only??

[dreuxscott1]

look heres my situation...i ended my test prop/winny cycle last june..right after i got off my cycle i hurt my shoulder in jiu jitsu so i had to take alot of time off...when i tried to come back it was just bad pain in my shoulder..by the way i had labrium surgery about 2 years ago so my shoulders are always prone to getting injured..well i took the summer off from working out and i just started lifting again this week...sucks because i lost everything i gained from my last cycle and i think i actually look worse then i ever have...i lost muscle and gained a good amount of fat..ive been doing alot of cardio in the past 3 weeks and have been taking clen ...ive also lost all my strength and was wondering what you guys think about me taking some winny just to help out with me cuttin up alittle and helpin out with strength??im not ready to get into a full blown cycle so thats why i was askin if i could just do winny....

[RoidGut]

I would never concider doing a winny only cycle. You will get nothing out of it at all. Why not take some test? If you are worried about bloating up, then take prop. You will get much better results than a winny only cycle.

But from the sounds of it, you really need to work up your strength first befor even concidering jumping inot a cycle. We have all been there and I can sympathise with you about losing what you had. But diving into a cycle is not going to help and may even set you back. I would personally work on diet first then when you regain your strength, do a cycle if need be

just my 2 cents...up to you in the end

[vitor]

I would never concider doing a winny only cycle. You will get nothing out of it at all.

So, you are saying that winstrol is not anabolic at all??

I have seen some people get good results from winny-only cycles.

[spywizard]

some will get good results..

what would your goals from this cycle be??

if it's just strength and rehab for the shoulder.. then winny would not be the suggested cycle..

why type of workout are you following??

[Booz]

i cannot understand where you get nothin at all out of taking winstroll by itself??
personally i would take some for of testosterone then finish up the end of the cycle with some winstrol but people have used it by itself with good results.................
persdonally i would use some test with it tho........

[dreuxscott1]

yea i understand the whole test and winny thing..thats why my last cycle i did test first then winny etc etc...but my goals right now are to get myself strength wise back to where i was at or somewhat close to it..also this is not to rehab my shoulder..my shoulder is fine now..nothing is torn i already had an mri so im good to go..i just want to take something that will increase my strength and cut my up alittle more then what clen and cardio can do...if i did do winny only what supplements should i take with it to make sure im not gonna mess myself up from doing winny only...

[dreuxscott1]

see the thing is if im going to take test then im gonna use prop...i dont want to be injecting eod right now..im going to save the injecting for a later date..could i take some andro or tribulus or something of that nature to substitute the test prop...also my workouts are like this...day 1 chest/tris, day 2 back/bi's, day 3 traps and hamstrings, day 4 shoulders and quads/calfs...i do those 4 workouts spread out during the week whenever i have a chance to workout..i also do jiu jitsu and kick boxing also...which i had to take time off from doing also but im starting that back up now too

[RoidGut]

i cannot understand where you get nothin at all out of taking winstroll by itself??
personally i would take some for of testosterone then finish up the end of the cycle with some winstrol but people have used it by itself with good results.................
persdonally i would use some test with it tho........

I didn't mean to sound like it should never be done. It is just a personal opinion from my own experience with it, and from seeing results of my friends who when on it solo. I still stand by what I said about using test instead, or even what you suggested...take them both.

[LatinoPR]

IMO stack with some Test,you dont need hight doses,but its going to help for your shoulder.





LPR ...dermatology.

[dreuxscott1]

thanks guys for recommending test..i know all about how everyone thinks u should take test but like i said im not going to take test..so what should i take as far as supplements while on winny...oh yea is it true that nolva will make u sterile?

[dreuxscott1]

????

[bigg_poppa]

just go straight winstrol for 6 weeks everyday at 50 mg a day with milk thistle for your live and glucosamine chondroitin for your joints and something for hair loss incase u care

[Hellmaskbanned]

Y not tbol.....Winstrol is not the best juice after recovering from an injury.

[dreuxscott1]

ive done tbol and didnt like it..didnt really get much from it...what kind of pct should i run with winstrol only?

[dreuxscott1]

plus i have a ton of winstrol

[D-Money]

just go straight winstrol for 6 weeks everyday at 50 mg a day with milk thistle for your live and glucosamine chondroitin for your joints and something for hair loss incase u care

I agree. I know a few guys that ran winny alone, and they where happy with the results. With you already having cycle experience, I would run it a little higher like 100mg eod, and do a little pct with like 20-40mg of nolva for a month.

[dreuxscott1]

100mg eod??isnt that the same as 50mg ed...did u mean 100mg ed??

[Hellmaskbanned]

If you run it run it ed not eod.

[dreuxscott1]

yea i know that...thats why i asked if he made a mistake and meant to say 100mg ed

[D-Money]

100mg eod??isnt that the same as 50mg ed...did u mean 100mg ed??

My Bad: Shoot it every day. stanozolols' half life is about a day.

[dreuxscott1]

how much milk thistle and nolva??

[tiger909]

what kind of results do ppl get from winni only? how long do they run it?

[gobig99]

winny only will be tough on that shoulder/labrum if ya still feeling any pain in it

[dreuxscott1]

naw im not feelin any pain..i took 2 months off..so what do u guys think of people saying nolva makes you sterile?

[Stumbo]

nolva wont make you sterile.

You will feel pain bro, winny is probably the last thing i would run with that kind of injury. I know thats not the answer you want to hear.

I would give some var or tbol a try, they will give you the lean gains you are looking for, and the var may actually help the shoulder.

[dreuxscott1]

my shoulder is at 100 percent right now..and ive done var and tbol and wasnt impressed with the results..was very happy from the winny in my last cycle so thats why i wanna do it again and like i said also i have a ton of winny

[chuckt12345]

my shoulder is at 100 percent right now..and ive done var and tbol and wasnt impressed with the results..was very happy from the winny in my last cycle so thats why i wanna do it again and like i said also i have a ton of winny

im runnin winny alone right now, with milk thisitle, gulcosomine, creatine, arginine also. im gonna take for 6 weeks at 50mg/ed and then nolvadex at 20 to 30mged for 4 weeks after my last winny day. im usin liquid orals and so far after two weeks its been workin great,,, joints a little dry but not to bad,, ive gained about 8 pounds and dropped some of my dounut.