Test E and Deca Cycle

**ebomb6789** · 08-31-2006, 11:26 AM

Would it be a bad idea for me to start taking winny or andriol at week five of my cycle I just think I want more size.

**tonytone** · 08-31-2006, 11:32 AM

at wk 5 you should just be starting to see results from test/deca ..i think the size you will gain in the following wks from the test/deca will be more than enough

**pdog80** · 08-31-2006, 12:06 PM

As tony stated. Patience......have patience my son and you will see progress. He he. It takes awhile to see noticeable results on deca and test e because it takes awhile for them to kick in because of their long esters.

**AlwaysLearning** · 08-31-2006, 03:15 PM

any sides?

**pdog80** · 08-31-2006, 03:49 PM

Sides from what? Test e and deca ?

**ebomb6789** · 08-31-2006, 04:35 PM

I know I need to just give it a chance to work my only concern is I am doing a 10 week cycle not 12 I just want good results.

**sircharles** · 09-01-2006, 02:39 PM

im about to do the same cycle. the only reason someone mentioned to take winny was to combat deca -gyno.

other than that, if this is your first cycle, stay SIMPLE.

**pumpd4lif** · 09-01-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by sircharles

im about to do the same cycle. the only reason someone mentioned to take winny was to combat deca -gyno.

other than that, if this is your first cycle, stay SIMPLE.

and can u tell me how winny will help combat gyno

**marcus300** · 09-01-2006, 03:02 PM

I would start the winny on wk 6 and run it straight up to pct start time.

**ebomb6789** · 09-01-2006, 03:24 PM

winny depot or winny tabs?

**marcus300** · 09-01-2006, 03:37 PM

Adding the winny wont really give you more size more condition/hardness and will aid the whole cycle especailly after you have stopped the test, id go with injectable personal tatse!

**Tommy Boy** · 09-01-2006, 04:50 PM

I'm gonna run similar cycle:14 weeks may be too long but Deca / EQ need time.
1-14 Test cyp.
1-4 Prolly Dbol to kickstart.
1-12 I'm leaning toward EQ instead of Deca.
5-14 VAR

EQ offers Less sides. More lean mass. No dick-sides. Less Bloat...

PCT 16-20 Nolva/clomid/ aromasin .

Winny is just a liver nightmare. f***ing 17aa orals.
An option... but may be too long of a cycle for you.

**pdog80** · 09-01-2006, 05:10 PM

Oh and running var for 10 weeks straight is ok for your liver? I don't think so. Also, your cholesterol levels will be through the roof if you run var that long.

**cfiler** · 09-01-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by ebomb6789

I know I need to just give it a chance to work my only concern is I am doing a 10 week cycle not 12 I just want good results.

You could run your test to week 10, and the winstrol to week 12. Then start PCT.

**DSM4Life** · 09-01-2006, 05:47 PM

I am currently running

Test e 600mg a week
Deca 400mg a week
L-dex thoughout
Mike thistle thoughout
Multi-vit throughout

I am running the deca for 14 weeks and the test to the 16th week.

PCT
Clomid
nolva

**fLgAtOr** · 09-01-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by cfiler

You could run your test to week 10, and the winstrol to week 12. Then start PCT.

I like this idea. Keeps your strength up while the test is leaving.

**hardgainer12** · 09-01-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by sircharles

im about to do the same cycle. the only reason someone mentioned to take winny was to combat deca-gyno.

other than that, if this is your first cycle, stay SIMPLE.

since when?

**Tommy Boy** · 09-01-2006, 08:42 PM

Yo Pdog, you better go check your roid profiles DUDE. Var is like skittles compared to winny.
Minimal liver toxicity, as well as, lipid dysfunction.

WINNY on the other hand is one of the absolute worst liver AND lipid offenders out there.

Check it out with Anthony Roberts review. Do your homework DAWG !

OH, and I meant 6 weeks of VAR. To each his own junior. Just get your facts straight.

Nighty night.

**pdog80** · 09-01-2006, 09:23 PM

You better do your homework, noob. Running var that long causes elevated liver values and f---s up your cholesterol. You wouldn't know that because you haven't been on this board long enough to get that info from the other vets, mods and members who've had experience with var.

**ebomb6789** · 09-01-2006, 10:01 PM

I will stick with this till the end then go big on my next cycle

**pdog80** · 09-01-2006, 10:04 PM

Good idea.

**Tommy Boy** · 09-02-2006, 11:12 AM

Click Drug Name to View Profile: Anavar

Click Drug Name to View Profile: Winstrol

**pdog80** · 09-02-2006, 03:26 PM

Junior?!!! Ha ha, very funny. Let's see here, I'm 5'7, 215, 10% bf. Plus I've got 6 cycles under my belt so far. Junior? I don't think so. You ever talk to the members, vets and mods who've actually have had experience with var?! Obviously you haven't or you'd know that var f---s up your cholesterol levels and raises liver enzymes if you run it for 10 weeks straight. See, I get my info from the horses mouth so you can go ahead and run var for 10 weeks straight and see what it does to your cholesterol levels.

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**Swifto** · 09-02-2006, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

Oh and running var for 10 weeks straight is ok for your liver? I don't think so. Also, your cholesterol levels will be through the roof if you run var that long.

Why not? Anavar isnt a very hepatoxic androgen at all.

I ran Tbol at 60-80mg/ED for 12 weeks with a VERY slight increase in liver values. Whilst cholestrol was mid to high. Bloodwork was done at around week 6-7. Then again later in the cycle.

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 03:49 PM

Just to give my view and experience, ive never had or heard anyone having problems with anavar weather liver or any other problems, infact its very mild and dont really like it unless it a high dose,

pdog80, Have you had some problems running var? what was the dose pls?

**pdog80** · 09-02-2006, 04:15 PM

No, Marcus, I've never ran var before, but I've talked to several members and vets in here who have told me through their experience that running var for long periods of time slightly elevated their liver values and messed up their cholesterol levels. I'll take someone's personal experience over an article anyday.

**Swifto** · 09-02-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

No, Marcus, I've never ran var before, but I've talked to several members and vets in here who have told me through their experience that running var for long periods of time slightly elevated their liver values and messed up their cholesterol levels. I'll take someone's personal experience over an article anyday.

I go on many members experiences running it, here, other boards and friends. They all point in the direction of it not being very liver toxic and a overall, mild androgen. So saying, "dont run it for 10 weeks" or whatever you said, isnt that accurate.

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

No, Marcus, I've never ran var before, but I've talked to several members and vets in here who have told me through their experience that running var for long periods of time slightly elevated their liver values and messed up their cholesterol levels. I'll take someone's personal experience over an article anyday.

Yes totaly agree personal experience outrides any article, like ive said never had any problems or anyone i know which does seen strange, maybe could of been another compound what elevated their values, intresting tho

**pdog80** · 09-02-2006, 04:22 PM

I'm not saying it's very liver toxic. What I'm trying to say is that it wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels and that a 10 week cycle may be too long.

**fLgAtOr** · 09-02-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

I'm not saying it's very liver toxic. What I'm trying to say is that it wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels and that a 10 week cycle may be too long.

I know what you're saying. But becuase its so mild, 4-6 weeks tends to not be enough the get anything worthwhile out of it, IMO.

**pdog80** · 09-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Thank you flgator. I agree with you that 4-6 weeks is a bit short. I'd say 8 weeks is optimal from what I hear.

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

I'm not saying it's very liver toxic. What I'm trying to say is that it wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels and that a 10 week cycle may be too long.

Well ive never heard of it or experienced it but that doest mean it cant happen, if you have heard this from some BB's suppose it can happen but i would like to know what else they were taking, i think its safe to say that "var as been know in a few BB's to play havoc on your cholesterol"

There you go i settled your argument between you two.

**pdog80** · 09-02-2006, 04:32 PM

Thank you Marcus. That ends this debate!

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

Thank you Marcus. That ends this debate!

Anytime

**fLgAtOr** · 09-02-2006, 04:40 PM

What debate?

So Ebomb, are you making gains yet or what?

It's been like two days...you should be huge by now.

**ebomb6789** · 09-02-2006, 05:32 PM

Huge by now... huh nothing in the last two days.

**guest589745** · 09-02-2006, 05:41 PM

I would try to be a little more patient. You dont know exactly how much size you will keep let alone add as of yet IMO. But if you choose to do so, add winny the last 6 weeks or so @ 50-75mg ed.

**guest589745** · 09-02-2006, 05:42 PM

If you are worried abotu cholesterol, add some supps to aid it.

niacin
grape extract

to name a couple.

**pumpd4lif** · 09-02-2006, 08:36 PM

yes anavar doea reek havoc on cholestrol.i wouildnt take it for more then 8 weeks but u can take a pretty high dosage in that time peroid anything less then 60 mg ed is a waste IMO

**Tommy Boy** · 09-02-2006, 08:48 PM

Just admit when your wrong , Cheesedick.

Besides... I don't take advice from a 5'6", 25 year old boy , JUNIOR !!!

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