Hi, thinkin of runnin eq/test ent for 20 weeks

**YoRgO17** · 08-31-2006, 08:05 PM

Hi, originally was planning on running it for 15 weeks but ive gotten good results the last week and im thinkin they might just be kickin in... this is my 3rd cycle and was wonderin if i could get away with runnin it for 20 weeks. runnin eq at 600 mg/week and test at 600 mg/week

**hardgainer12** · 08-31-2006, 08:13 PM

what week are u in. i stick to 12 weeks but if its ur third cycle then maybe.

**soccer#3** · 08-31-2006, 08:17 PM

good luck wit the cycle.. dont forget ur pct

**YoRgO17** · 08-31-2006, 08:19 PM

im in my 14th or 15th week now.. only have a couple shots left.. im starting to consider it now.. can anyone let me in on the good and bad of running it to 20 weeks?
would reallllly appreciate it

**cfiler** · 08-31-2006, 09:08 PM

Sides will be more harsh. PCT will be harder/take longer to fully recover.

I'd run PCT now, or a bridge into a different cycle.

**YoRgO17** · 08-31-2006, 09:11 PM

more opinions plz .. which sides.. all i got right now is some acne and heartburn

**YoRgO17** · 09-01-2006, 07:33 AM

ehy guys sorry im bumping this i really could use more info on the topic

**marcus300** · 09-01-2006, 07:36 AM

What gains have you had with the cycle up to now? which weeks did you see the best gains appear?

**YoRgO17** · 09-01-2006, 08:02 AM

started off with dbol for week 1-6
saw steady gains throughout the 14 weeks, moreso towards the end of it.. now im seeing the best gains probably which is why im thinking of prolonging it another 5 weeks... could i get away with it..
started at 212lbs now at 240lbs

**elitetky** · 09-01-2006, 10:33 AM

wow 240bls thats a big dude! and big dude i dont agree with 20week man
maybe around 14week would be fine i agree with that rat !

**V_Vandetta** · 09-01-2006, 10:39 AM

I have run long cycles 25 plus weeks But plain for them like taking HCG throuh out at sertin times to help with a good PCt later on because the longer you run a cycle the longer you surpress your natty test ......... But since you are still seeing gains It's your call bro IMO 15 weeks 20 weeks your natty test is shut down ....... So if it were me I would run the 20 weeks but be ready for some losse of weight at the end ........ but if you hit your PCT right and train and diet the same and can puch through the problems with long cycles Than i say go for it

**LatinoPR** · 09-01-2006, 11:06 AM

For me,running long cycles cost me a lot of time to recover....so be sure that you have a good pct on hand.

LPR ...dermatology.

**YoRgO17** · 09-01-2006, 01:52 PM

I plan on takin hcg /clomid for pct.. if anyone would be as helpfull as to suggest dosages and dates for pct that would be great.. im pretty sure im gonna run the full 20 weeks then

**marcus300** · 09-01-2006, 02:48 PM

I wouldn't run to 20 weeks, i would come off go into pct and recover the best and as quick as possible, if you do run up to 20 wks the downside can be very harsh, lets say you do carry on gaining muscle tissue and at the end go into pct, i would bet that you will find it really hard to recover your natural test which in turn results in bigger losses on muscle tissue and weight so it defeats the object in the long run,

Also which some don't think about is the mental side of coming off 20wks cycle, Ive had and seen some bad sides when relating to the mental depression, i don't think what you will gain in the extra weeks is worth it because IMHO i think you will lose it and more aswell so i would come off and recover and maintain

**pumpd4lif** · 09-01-2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by YoRgO17

I plan on takin hcg /clomid for pct.. if anyone would be as helpfull as to suggest dosages and dates for pct that would be great.. im pretty sure im gonna run the full 20 weeks then

pct
7 days past last injection start hcg 250ui ed
continue for 7 days 7th day 500ui

starting day 1 after hcg
1. 300 mg clomid 20mg nolva 20 mcgs clen
2. 200 mg clomid 20 nolva 40 mcgs clen
3. 150 mg clomid 20 nolva 60 mcgs clen
4. 100mg clomid 20 nolva 80 mcgs clen(up 20mcgs ed till 120 mcgs ed
continue clomid nolva same dosage till 14th day of pct
then drop clomid, continue nolva for the reminder of my 30 day pct starting 1000ui vitamin E after drop clomid
if i were u i would run the hcg at 500 ui ed for the 7 days much more effective smaller doses ed.if u dont see ur boys drop or start to inlarge after 5th day up to 750ui for 5 more days just work it into the above pct for it has worked great for my 16 weeker
keep in mind that i totaly agree with marcus!!

**Jucinator2** · 09-01-2006, 07:53 PM

when your seeing the good gains its hard to come of, at least for me. I just want to get bigger and bigger, I was on a 9 month cycle and recovered in 70 days and went back on a short 10 week cycle.

**YoRgO17** · 09-01-2006, 10:14 PM

thanks markus and pumpd, i think im going to take your advise and end my cycle, thanks alot for the input. also pumpd i really appreiate your pct input i believe thats what im going to follow.. would you recommend the same dosages even if i ended the cycle after 15 weeks?

P.S. Not sure how important you guys think this is but my first cycle was over 30 weeks because i was uneducated and unaware... also followed by bad pct heh..

**YoRgO17** · 09-01-2006, 10:43 PM

i almost want to try out the 20 weeks out of curiosity.. i wanna see if the eq really just takes alot longer to work with me.. i know my dbol didnt kick in untill week 3... i wanna see how much ill keep if i run 20 weeks...how much i gain in the last 5 weeks... how much i lose after... if i end up gettin screwed.. o well lesson learned.. right? .. whats the worst that could happen.... thing is i dont know how long it'll be before i ever run another 15week cyc could be years.. and i really just wanna see if it would go any farther... if i do decide to do 20 ill let u guys know how it works out

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 02:39 AM

How old are you?

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 02:56 AM

Yorgo17, with your last couple of posts i started to get the feeling we are dealing with someone who is young this is why Ive asked your age, Ive just looked at your profile (which i should of done before my mistake) and it states your 20yrs old???

I cant believe your first cycle was 30 weeks long and now your considering a 20 week cycle, this behavior is madness am sorry to say, do you have any idea what you are doing to yourself?? answer is NO you haven't otherwise you wouldn't be doing such madness things at such a young age,

You are in big danger in damaging your own natural hormone balance up, you don't need AAS at your age you have enough hormones floating around to make really decent gains, i am lost for words,

Please come off and go into pct and try and recover and don't touch any kind of AAS for a few years, build a good solid base from diet and training,

best of luck

**YoRgO17** · 09-02-2006, 12:51 PM

alright turning 21 in a week, however i have been soild training for 5 years (naturally) and only started aas in the last 1-1/2 years, so 6 years total now, no breaks. Naturally i was 225 and build a REALLY soild base.. anyways i know i definately could have been more educated when i started, however i also think it could have been worse.. but i guess mabye i should take your advice.. still a little 50/50 on the issue though. after my first cycle i took 7 months off.. so i started this cycle fresh.. plan on takin another 5-7 months off after this cycle as well which is why i was hoping to run it 20 weeks with proper pct

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 12:56 PM

You dont need AAS at your age, i know its not what you want to hear but doing 30 week first cycles and then 20 wk cycle is just madness, pls listen you have a good chance of damaging your own hormone balance up, ive seen many over the years who are having big trouble and are considering HRT in there 20's,

No more i can say except you dont need them at your age,

best of luck

**YoRgO17** · 09-02-2006, 01:03 PM

well i try to learn from other people and i know your far more educated on it then i am, so im gonna not do the 20 ill rest for half a year and decide weither or not to start again, mabye try cutting down to 210 see wut i look like heh, anyways thanks for the input. time to hope on clen hcg and clomid i guess lol. o marcus if you would recommend a pct cyc for the 15 week i would really appreciate it as well

here was the full cyc
week 1-6 dbol // 600mcg eq// 600 msg test enth// per week
week 6-15// 600 eq 600 ent

thanks again

**Swifto** · 09-02-2006, 01:17 PM

Hookers PCT should work well. I've just come off a 14 weeker and used it, whilst adding Proviron 50mg/ED and kept 70-80% of my gains whilst restoring engenous testosterone production in 5-6 weeks. Its actually above normal now, but not sure for how long.

I dont think you should cycle. However, if your set on it, use HCG 250-500ius/E5D for testicular size/function.

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by YoRgO17

well i try to learn from other people and i know your far more educated on it then i am, so im gonna not do the 20 ill rest for half a year and decide weither or not to start again, mabye try cutting down to 210 see wut i look like heh, anyways thanks for the input. time to hope on clen hcg and clomid i guess lol. o marcus if you would recommend a pct cyc for the 15 week i would really appreciate it as well

here was the full cyc
week 1-6 dbol // 600mcg eq// 600 msg test enth// per week
week 6-15// 600 eq 600 ent

thanks again

Well done educated decision.

have you no set out pct protocol for your cycle?

**YoRgO17** · 09-02-2006, 01:36 PM

where can i find hookers pct?

**Swifto** · 09-02-2006, 01:38 PM

Learn to use the Search Feature...I just did.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

**gymrocken** · 09-02-2006, 01:44 PM

just stop when the gains stop comin. and if you're just using test and eq then i think they'd stop pretty soon, 12 weeks-14 weeks. 20 is wont do much bro, just make it harder for you to recover after cycle

**marcus300** · 09-02-2006, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by gymrocken

just stop when the gains stop comin. and if you're just using test and eq then i think they'd stop pretty soon, 12 weeks-14 weeks. 20 is wont do much bro, just make it harder for you to recover after cycle

The issue is not the length of cycle anymore thats been answered, please read the whole thread there was more important issues than the cycle.