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    elite2kr is offline Member
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    cyponate vs enthanate

    Which testosterone would you use in this cycle?

    weeks 1-3 , 20mg m1t

    weeks 1-8 (Test C) or (Test E)?

    weeks 1-8 letro 2.5mg

    weeks 6-9 igf-lr3

    pct consisting of hcg and nolva *would this be enough*?

    Basically i want to frontload with m1t untill the test kicks in. Then during the end of the cycle run igf mabe even through my pct.


    suggestions/critisism happily accepted

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    Im assuming this is your first cycle, but you need to list your stats, cycle experiences if not first ,as well as your dsgs for each... For the test i would recommend a 10 wk maybe 12 of just test alone.... you would see great results, if you kickstart any cycle i would do it with test prop, or dbol ..... give me your stats and i will help as best as i can

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ
    Im assuming this is your first cycle, but you need to list your stats, cycle experiences if not first ,as well as your dsgs for each... For the test i would recommend a 10 wk maybe 12 of just test alone.... you would see great results, if you kickstart any cycle i would do it with test prop, or dbol..... give me your stats and i will help as best as i can

    I have contemplated many times doing a cycle in the past, but never have done it. I just cant make a choice and stick with it.


    My current stats are


    5'5

    160lbs

    10% bf

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    Cyp and Enth - almost the same thing honestly. I take whatever one I get and notice the same results with both. I love Prop.

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    What bishop said. They're pretty much the same thing.

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    When someone ask you for ur stats it includes, height, weight, age, bf, cycle experience,, just for future reference,,, but at your height, and weight i would suggest more training, and eating more meat, getting yoru diet is the key along with hard tranining to make ur gains... im guessing your pretty young... might watn to give the honest age my friend... dont even think about AA's until your at least in your 20's.... but to answer your question.. both are the same thing basically ... but i would go cyp lil better for me on bloat

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    dont use the 1t to start your cycle....

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    No difference basically.

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    Let me rephrase that...some people do care a little because of what Steroidz said. They are both just test with different esters that are mildly different in terms of release. Since Cyp is a little more expedient, it won't cause as much bloat...but as I said, I don't notice. My friend is IFBB and to him they are night/day and he is very specific in terms of the period of the year which one he would take because of the slighest water retention.

    Again, I just love Propianate and I don't mind shooting everyday (I shoot everything everyday (MON, TUES, THURS, FRI, SAT): trenA mg/day, prop 100,mg/day, EQ 60mg/day, anavar 50mg/day, HGH 4iu/day. I am a pin cushion though and shoot shoulders, quads, and only my right ass cheek (I can't reach my left unless someone does it for me...abs for HGH).

    Take either one brother unless you are competing and maybe cyp would be better if you are within a few months of competition. Late Bish

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    Good information bishop23..... as i agree with you, both are basically the same thing with a lil less bloat with cyp.. but if your going on competition mode i woudlnt use either.... prop would be the test for me in that situation... but i highly doubt he wants to hit it ed or eod lol... but either is fine.. same results IMO

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    What would be the best way to configure a 12 week cycle of

    -Test E
    -Dbol
    -Letro
    -igf-lr3

    pct consisting of...

    Im 26 years old, I just happen to be very short. Dad was 5'11 mom was 5'4.

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    bump

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    With your first cycle you should hit test e 500mg a wk *( 2 shots a wk) i woudlnt advise using letro... you can just have letro on hand incase of gyno symptoms... and if that happens run letro at .25 a day if signs occur.... the dbol should be ran as a kickstarter... i would say 40mg ed for the first 4 wks... thats a great beginnner cycle.. you would see great results... your pct should consist of clomid, & nolva i dont know about the igf i would leave it out all together

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr

    Im 26 years old, I just happen to be very short. Dad was 5'11 mom was 5'4.
    Funny how genetics are; my dad's 5'9 and mom's 5'3...I'm 6'3

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