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09-29-2006, 05:21 PM #12/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Cycle idea
Another idea I was thinking of. Won't be a for a while but I wanted to discuss it with you guys.
Goals: To build muscle and lose some fat. Yes, at the same time.
Compounds:
0.Weeks -4-0: 40-60mcg IGF-1 LR3 PWO
1.Weeks 1-10: 100mg Masteron ED
2.Weeks 1-8: 100mg Tren A ED (Or as much as I can handle)
3.Weeks 1-14: 100mg Test a week (Test sucks)
4.Weeks 8-12: Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 100mg ED (To keep a 19nor in the mix but is it worth it?)
5.Weeks 1-12: (Need help with small dose for cardiovascular health) Furazabol ED
Ancilleries:
1.Weeks 1-16: Adex .5mg ED with letro on hand
2.Caber (Need help with dose)
3.Weeks 11-14 50mg Proviron ED (to keep some DHT in with the test/NPP but not too much)
4.Weeks ?-? HCG (Need advise on this)
PCT:
1.Weeks 17-20+: 20mg Nolvadex ED
2.Weeks 17-20+: Standard Clomid therapy
I know it may look like a lot but taking doses/length into consideration I don't think it's too bad.
Any advise?Last edited by guest589745; 09-29-2006 at 07:56 PM.
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09-29-2006, 05:49 PM #2
Cool ten weeks of pinning yourself ED.....That ought to be fun
one thing is I don't see the need for the test if your using mast.
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09-29-2006, 05:52 PM #32/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by Surrender
Originally Posted by Surrender
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09-29-2006, 06:38 PM #42/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by Surrender
Did you not see that I had tren in there as well?
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09-30-2006, 05:04 PM #5Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
People who have gyno problems can usually switch test for masterone and prevent the gyno.
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09-30-2006, 05:08 PM #62/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by Surrender
Test and amst are two completely different compounds so they actually, are very different and do not "Do the same job".
Why bother? Because I would like to avoid sexual dysfunction. Its a replacement dose.
DHT derivatives reduce estrogen yes, but I am still not going to use all of these compounds without a small dose of test.
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09-30-2006, 05:10 PM #7Originally Posted by Surrender
yes it has been said that masteron works well as an anti estrogen but it is no way a replacement for testosterone as it will shut you down like any other.
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09-30-2006, 05:20 PM #8Originally Posted by anaBROLIC
I agree we are in a different world. I have cycled off and on for over 25 yrs with no problems. Blood test are good, cholestrol does go up some and my blood pressure great. Not bad for a guy 55 yrs old with as many cycles under his belt.
You guys are young and are going to run whatever you choose to. I'll run cycles that I know are safe and add as nuch mass as anyone here.
I surrender to the young and crazy
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09-29-2006, 06:56 PM #9Associate Member
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your 19nor is tren
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09-29-2006, 06:59 PM #102/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by cantspeak
Yes but, it ends at week 8.
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09-29-2006, 07:13 PM #112/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Anyone think finasteride would be good ?
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09-29-2006, 07:48 PM #122/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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^^^^
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09-29-2006, 07:52 PM #13
do i have to comment?
and its
FURAZABOL!
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09-29-2006, 07:56 PM #142/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
Oh ok, my bad, its new to me.
Would you change anything besides multiplying the doses by 73 ?
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09-29-2006, 07:57 PM #15Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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09-29-2006, 08:33 PM #162/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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^^^^^
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09-30-2006, 04:51 PM #18
cruise
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09-30-2006, 04:55 PM #192/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
Be more specific.....
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09-30-2006, 04:56 PM #20
id say you should go with the tren til week 10 and end the test in week 12 with the npp.
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09-30-2006, 04:57 PM #212/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by anaBROLIC
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09-30-2006, 05:00 PM #222/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by anaBROLIC
I gotcha now. So why shoudl I end the NPP with the test? I have ended deca 1 week before ending my test and it sucked BIG TIME, really learned from that though. I dont think I will do that again.
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09-30-2006, 05:06 PM #23Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
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09-30-2006, 05:16 PM #242/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by anaBROLIC
Ah yes, maybe.
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09-30-2006, 04:59 PM #25
lol your quick. as soon as i typed that i noticed i misread it and edited it..
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09-30-2006, 05:25 PM #26Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
I guess I'm lucky. Never had gyno, never used PCT and never been shut down. Actually I tried PCT last year twice and din't do anymore for me then just coming off the gear slowly. Ramping down
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09-30-2006, 06:30 PM #27Originally Posted by Surrender
believe me when ur doing 3cc+ ed .. u dont want .25ml of prop in there too
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09-30-2006, 05:27 PM #282/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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I have a lot of cypionate left over so I am going to use it up. I wouldve used prop otherwise.
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09-30-2006, 06:33 PM #292/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Tai, what did you mean by "Cruise" ? Til the cycle or after it or what?
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09-30-2006, 06:38 PM #30Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
look at it like this
for 4-6 weeks ur trying to get back to normal then u will prolly cycle again in 6 weeks so in 12 weeks u cycle again LOL u didnt do shit for your system other than put it through hell and back and induce a catabolic state w/ low test
i would say 125mg/testE wk is most ideal for crusing i like to run a hevy cycle for 6weeks then cruise for 6
but if u look at a teen boy he produce 10-15mg Test ED
125mg/testE = about 70-80mg Test/wk since the ester takes up 40% or so
thus ur only utilizing as much test as a teen and thats not bad for ya but it keeps ya from loosing pointless muscle and going through pct rollercaoster
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09-30-2006, 06:44 PM #312/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Hard choice.
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09-30-2006, 06:46 PM #32Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
how many cycles to run a year
how long are they
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09-30-2006, 06:49 PM #332/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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This will be my third this year which will go into next year when it ends.
1 - 12 week
2 - 9 week
3 - 14 or so week (Future)Last edited by guest589745; 10-01-2006 at 12:09 AM.
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09-30-2006, 06:52 PM #34
and your about to start another 12-14 weeker??? thats alot in a year. how much time are you taking off in between??
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09-30-2006, 06:54 PM #35
lol again i read wrong.. i thought this one gonna be 4th this year.. i was gonna say slow down...lol
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09-30-2006, 06:59 PM #362/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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yea I read wrote it, I mis typed a couple things.
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10-01-2006, 12:04 AM #372/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Tai, help me like you said you were gonna..
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10-01-2006, 12:06 AM #38Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
when u ran them
what u ran
how long u ran them and all that krap
and ur future plans of how many u want to run
how long and how krazy
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10-01-2006, 12:14 AM #392/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
First cycle was 12 weeks of cypionate @ 500mg a week. gained virtually nothing. started @ 225lbs 18%bf ended at abotu the same give and take a couple pounds here and there.
2 months later I went on 40mg Dbol naposims ED( i think I could handle 75mg easy) (100mg of liquid version did nothing), 750mg test which I dropped to 500mg after 5 weeks (Should have dropped to 250), and 450mg deca which I upped to 900mg til week 9. ran the test til one week after the deca and felt like SHIT, so I took it for another week and PCTd fine. Ended this almost two monts ago @ 240lbs 17%bf according to calipers.
I want to get to 250 at least, and with no more than 12% bf. That is my goal.
I dont picture me stopping until I get there or beyond.
I want to cycle what is necessary but I also wan tto try to be cautious of BP, cholesterol and overall cardiovascualr health while on. I am expecting to do SOME damage to myself in the proces of getting to where I want to be but I will deal with that and will try to minimize it.
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10-01-2006, 12:16 AM #40Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
and i would/could easily give u some GRAET ideas that you wuld love but i would not like to talk about them in open forum since i consider them ADVANCED techniques that could be NOT good for n00bs
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