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**bor** · 10-11-2006, 02:19 PM

like ephedrine and clen cause erection problems in some people?

**fLgAtOr** · 10-11-2006, 02:23 PM

not sure about clen ...But I beleive ephredra is a vasoconstrictor.

**bor** · 10-11-2006, 02:26 PM

YOu mean it makes weins thicker or smaller (freakin english

)?

What lese would fall into the same category? Caffeine? Green tea?

**fLgAtOr** · 10-11-2006, 02:29 PM

It would make them constrict and be smaller.

I don't think caffine in reasonable doses woudl have the effect.

Wait....I think I'm talking out of my ass. Ephedra in some of its derivatives is used as a brochiodialator...opening up the airways right?

**fLgAtOr** · 10-11-2006, 02:30 PM

Maybe its BP related...I've never had a problem with fL Jr not working with caffine.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-11-2006, 02:44 PM

it is a vasocomstrictor which is why it is pointless using it with arginine as it cancels out arginines vasodilation. It also opens up passages in the lungs which help you breath easier. Vasoconstrictors cause erectile problems due to the fact that blood flow is interfered with. Blood flow is obviously important in achieving and maintaining erection.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-11-2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

it is a vasocomstrictor which is why it is pointless using it with arginine as it cancels out arginines vasodilation. It also opens up passages in the lungs which help you breath easier. Vasoconstrictors cause erectile problems due to the fact that blood flow is interfered with. Blood flow is obviously important in achieving and maintaining erection.

So I WAASS right. and caffine is supposed to be aok when taking NO2 type supplements.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-11-2006, 02:56 PM

caffiene is also a vasoconstricor but is not as potent as ephedrine. It will have a small negative affect on NO2 products but is considered by many to be a fair trade off due to the energy it gives them.

**daddy36** · 10-11-2006, 03:16 PM

so clen wont have the same affect as epehdrine...

**daddy36** · 10-11-2006, 03:18 PM

and which products opens up the lungs cuz the way i read it ur saying epedrine opens the lungs but i thought no2 helped with breathing EXC

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-11-2006, 04:04 PM

not sure about clen is it vasoconstrictor or dilator. It is def a bronchodilator same as ephedrine. The bronchodilators act on smooth bronchial muscle making it easier to breathe. N02 does not improve breathing or lung capacity but may halp with the ammount of oxygen carried in the blood as it increases blood flow as it is a vasodilator (opens arteries)

**bor** · 10-11-2006, 04:42 PM

SO NO2 such as XPAND would be helpfull to erections?

ANd also, how long for does ef have this negative effect for?

**bor** · 10-11-2006, 04:56 PM

And do you also experience prostate problem while using ef? I think that could also be a factor in thew erection thing?

Would cranberry extract help in that department?

**trulbfan3** · 10-12-2006, 02:47 AM

all i know is that ephedrine makes me looke like a lil scool boy when soft....talk about shrink up a package.

**stupidhippo** · 10-12-2006, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

It would make them constrict and be smaller.

I don't think caffine in reasonable doses woudl have the effect.

Wait....I think I'm talking out of my ass. Ephedra in some of its derivatives is used as a brochiodialator...opening up the airways right?

the vasoconstriction dilation is tissue specific.. it depends on the recpetors of the tissues and the affniity of the substabnce to different receptors..

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-12-2006, 04:22 AM

yes N02 is said to help erections due to increase blood flow. Ephedrine will be a problem all the time the drug is active in the body. It has caused me to have prostate problems in the past - pain when urinating that i can feel in the area between testicles and ass.