What is the shortest cycle reccomended?

**oswaldosalcedo** · 10-17-2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by GGallin

What is the shortest cycle any of you would reccomend for a first cycle. Can you really see gaines in a 6 week cycle or is that just a waste of time? Just plain Test E and then some clomid and something else for Pct.

for short cycles,short action esters.
4-5 weeks. short is short

**Schmidty** · 10-17-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

why dont you sit down and work it out yourself, how can you order AAS without any idea how much you want, if your using 500mg per wk of test e and your on it for 10 weeks and your amps are 250mg, 2x250mg=500 per wk= 20 amps for 10 weeks,

you sure are good at math.

**marcus300** · 10-17-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo

for short cycles,short action esters.
4-5 weeks. short is short

Incorrect, long ester can be used with short cycles, it all depends on the mg per day your using for it to be affective, normally only theadvance would use long esters due to the amount, but long esters are very affective and ive had some excellent gains in muscle tissue running 30 day cycles

**Chad B** · 10-17-2006, 11:18 AM

I have read of many noobs gaining 10-15 lbm pounds on Superdrol in 4 weeks.

check out upstatetanks log in supp section, hey did.

sp is a strong oral steroid . You can buy it on the net, over the counter..

**oswaldosalcedo** · 10-17-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Incorrect, long ester can be used with short cycles, it all depends on the mg per day your using for it to be affective, normally only theadvance would use long esters due to the amount, but long esters are very affective and ive had some excellent gains in muscle tissue running 30 day cycles

correct!
can be used anything.
but, "must be used" is other thing or should be used.

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:27 AM

I didnt know how many MG were in an amp. But thanks for letting me know. I need 10 more amps. How many Mg are in a vile of 10ml Deca ? I knew 2x250+500 but I didnt know how many MG were in each amp or each vile.

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 11:28 AM

it all depends what its dosed at.

**marcus300** · 10-17-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo

correct!
can be used anything.
but, "must be used" is other thing or should be used.

Thats 2 post's that dont make sense,

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 11:30 AM

could be 10ml@100mg per ml or 2ml=200mg it should say.

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Thats 2 post's that dont make sense,

Ageed?????!!!!

**marcus300** · 10-17-2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by GGallin

I didnt know how many MG were in an amp. But thanks for letting me know. I need 10 more amps. How many Mg are in a vile of 10ml Deca? I knew 2x250+500 but I didnt know how many MG were in each amp or each vile.

Well you did post that you knew, here is what you wrote -

Here is what I ordered
1 x WINSTROL (Stanabol) Br**** D**** 10mg
- Size: 100 tabs
1 x CLOMID 50mg by E***, GREECE
- Size: 12 tabs
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 10 amps
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 1 amp
2 x DECA -DURABOLIN 200mg/amp (yellow top) by Or****
1 x DECA-DURABOLIN 250mg/ml, 10ml vial by Br*****Dr#$%^
- Size: 1 vial

this thread is going mad now,,

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by helium3

could be 10ml@100mg per ml or 2ml=200mg it should say.

Well I havnt got them yet but I posted earlier in this thread what I ordered.
1 x WINSTROL (Stanabol) Br**** D**** 10mg
- Size: 100 tabs
1 x CLOMID 50mg by E***, GREECE
- Size: 12 tabs
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 10 amps
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 1 amp
2 x DECA -DURABOLIN 200mg/amp (yellow top) by Or****
1 x DECA-DURABOLIN 250mg/ml, 10ml vial by Br*****Dr#$%^
- Size: 1 vial

**oswaldosalcedo** · 10-17-2006, 11:33 AM

low IQ?

**V_Vandetta** · 10-17-2006, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo

for short cycles,short action esters.
4-5 weeks. short is short

How soo please explain( not even close to being true)

**marcus300** · 10-17-2006, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo

for short cycles,short action esters.
4-5 weeks. short is short

Low IQ....oh i understand now, am sure you will improve with practice

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Well you did post that you knew, here is what you wrote -

Here is what I ordered
1 x WINSTROL (Stanabol) Br**** D**** 10mg
- Size: 100 tabs
1 x CLOMID 50mg by E***, GREECE
- Size: 12 tabs
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 10 amps
1 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE 250mg/ml by Ab*****, Iran
- Size: 1 amp
2 x DECA -DURABOLIN 200mg/amp (yellow top) by Or****
1 x DECA-DURABOLIN 250mg/ml, 10ml vial by Br*****Dr#$%^
- Size: 1 vial

this thread is going mad now,,

My apologies, I am retarded I admit it. Sorry I really suck with numbers and measurements. So the deca is 250mg per ML and I have 10 ML per vial correct? So thats 2500 Mg per vial of deca. So all in all at 300MG per week of deca I have enough for roughly 8-10 weeks.

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 11:39 AM

hey you guys,we are getting of topic lol.

@ggallin you will want alot more clomid,i would take 4 a day for the first couple of days then go to 100mg for 10 days then 50mg for 10 days.

someone correct me if im wrong.

**oswaldosalcedo** · 10-17-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

How soo please explain( not even close to being true)

what is short?

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by GGallin

My apologies, I am retarded I admit it. Sorry I really suck with numbers and measurements. So the deca is 250mg per ML and I have 10 ML per vial correct? So thats 2500 Mg per vial of deca. So all in all at 300MG per week of deca I have enough for roughly 8-10 weeks.

yep you got it.

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by helium3

yep you got it.

Sweet I guess my brain does work, I just need to kick start it a little. And Btw I am getting more clomid before I begin my cycle, and some more PCT. Thanks for all of the help you guys. It sucks being a noob but we all have to start somewhere. At least I am attempting to learn rather than just jumping in head first and breaking my neck.

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 11:48 AM

good luck mate.

a side note you arent using clomid durin your cycle are you?if so dont only nolva.

**GGallin** · 10-17-2006, 11:55 AM

No clomid is for PCT, but you say I should use Nolva during cycle? Also should I take HCG during cycle as well?

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 12:01 PM

i have to go now but get another thread goin and get some more answers theres also some good articles on here about gyno.

,all i can say is that i hope your not gyno prone,as you have a compound that converts to estrogen and one thats a progestin,nolva should stop the gyno from test but not deca .you may not be prone at all