**bloodwork Just In*** Propecia Users Need Input

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:32 PM

Ok. I just got my 2nd bloodwork results back since I took my last one around 60 days ago. Everything came back normal since my last test especially my liver values which were soaring around 127 are now in the normal range again.

The only thing that was still low were my test levels. They dropped last time from 327 and are now 307.

I've been taking only Biotest Tribex and it looks like it hasn't been helping.

The only thing that I can imagine affecting my test levels is the propecia that I've been taking. I've been on it now for a little over a year at 1mg.

So does anyone that has been taking finasteride or dutasteride for long periods also have low test levels?

I've been off steroids since early August. Do you think i'm not fully recovered as well? It was only a var/proviron cycle.

**guest589745** · 10-14-2006, 05:33 PM

Hope it all turns out good smak, I dunno about your problem though.

How long has it been since you've been off ?

**pumpd4lif** · 10-14-2006, 05:34 PM

take tonkat bro some one on the site actaully was able to see his test levels prior to taking it and after was a signifacant increas in free test
bump
hoping he will chime in

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by pumpd4lif

take tonkat bro some one on the site actaully was able to see his test levels prior to taking it and after was a signifacant increas in free test
bump
hoping he will chime in

So you're saying tongkat is better than tribex (tribulus)?

I've tried both and really couldn't tell a difference. I took RedKat.

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Hope it all turns out good smak, I dunno about your problem though.

How long has it been since you've been off ?

Finished the cycle August 5th. Ran PCT for 2 weeks after.

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:38 PM

I'm pretty sure it's the propecia causing my low test levels.

It helps to block DHT. Can someone explain this better?

**pumpd4lif** · 10-14-2006, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Smak

So you're saying tongkat is better than tribex (tribulus)?

I've tried both and really couldn't tell a difference. I took RedKat.

i am almost certain those are both of the otc test boosters he took the first being tribulis then got blood work and i think test was on the low side then took the tonkat and free test went up a large amount im gonna look for the post.

**Kale** · 10-14-2006, 05:40 PM

Propecia is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. It blocks Test from converting into DHT. Its does not stop Test from being produced

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Propecia is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. It blocks Test from converting into DHT. Its does not stop Test from being produced

Ok. This is what I need to know.

So this wouldn't be a factor at all?

A ballpark normal range for total testosterone in males is 300-1100ng/dl, with
700ng/dl being the mean. How ever my doctor stated 437 to 707 ng/dl as
a normal range.

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:45 PM

But propecia also increases estrogen levels as well so wouldn't this lower test levels?

**305GUY** · 10-14-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Smak

A ballpark normal range for total testosterone in males is 300-1100ng/dl, with
700ng/dl being the mean. How ever my doctor stated 437 to 707 ng/dl as
a normal range.

normal range for total testosterone is 241-827 ng/dL

**Smak** · 10-14-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

normal range for total testosterone is 241-827 ng/dL

241 is quite low. Mine is very low for a person my age, 27at 307.

My dad said I should get off the propecia because it's affecting my test levels.

What do you think 305cuz and what is yours btw?

Go Dolphins!

**305GUY** · 10-14-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Smak

241 is quite low. Mine is very low for a person my age, 27at 307.

My dad said I should get off the propecia because it's affecting my test levels.

What do you think 305cuz and what is yours btw?

Go Dolphins!

dont know much about propecia but if i recall it lowers libido in some.. never heard of it lowering test levels.. dont know?

last time i got bloodwork done i was at 487 ng/dL with no problems.
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dolphins are killing me this season ONCE AGAIN

**skipp** · 10-14-2006, 06:18 PM

It lowers libido because the DHT is a big part of sex drive, that's why things like proviron increase libido.

If anything, I would think the finasteride would increase test because it keeps it from converting. Although 1mg/day isn't even that high of a dose.

**Maetenloch** · 10-14-2006, 06:22 PM

Going from 327 to 307 is only a 6% change. Your test levels fluctuate quite a bit within the day, so without more testing it's not clear that your baseline test level has really changed.

If you feel like trying something, try tongkat ali like pumpd4lif suggested. I've used it before while off cycle and noticed an increase in libido. Supposedly it acts like LH and stimulates productin of testosterone .

**Prada** · 10-15-2006, 01:40 PM

Smak you need to get a few blood tests to determine if you have any deficency in T levels. These levels can fluctuate a little during the day. It also depends on how you feel naturally. Just get some more work done before drawing any conclusion

**kloter1** · 10-15-2006, 03:00 PM

i couldve told you about your low test levels...hell youve been shitty in the sac lately.

I have notived alot more horniness withink the last 2 weeks. Pct if finished and the only thing ive been using was the tribex.

**stupidhippo** · 10-15-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Prada

Smak you need to get a few blood tests to determine if you have any deficency in T levels. These levels can fluctuate a little during the day. It also depends on how you feel naturally. Just get some more work done before drawing any conclusion

this is true... and also many ppl take months to recover fully from cycles...