pre comp bulk. test/deca/drol/????

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:20 AM

bulkin for my show in march, was jjust curious what others would consider running.

1000mg/wk test cyp wk 1-5
test enan wk 5-10
sustanon wk 10-15

( i have found best results with switching ester every 4 weeks for maximum reciptor site juiceability)

600mg/wk Deca wk 1-14

Current stash: winny tabs, var tabs, dbols, drol tabs, 40ml tren a, 20ml inject winny, 3months gh/slin.

What do you guys think i should add to my test/deca.. cant run deca/tren togetha so forget that.

currently on my 3rd week of test/deca, sitting @ 179 lbs 5% bf puffy and round.

I want to get back up to 210, b4 comp so i can shred down to 170 3% bf.

Any suggestions, or alterations would be appriciated. Thanks guys.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-21-2006, 10:37 AM

switching ester cannot have any benefit. An ester has nothing to do with receptors. That sounds like the sort of thing all "the Bros" at my gym would advice. The only thing the switch will do is to unsettle your blood levels.
The only thing I would add to that cycle is Food.

**D-Money** · 10-21-2006, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

bulkin for my show in march, was jjust curious what others would consider running.

1000mg/wk test cyp wk 1-5
test enan wk 5-10
sustanon wk 10-15

( i have found best results with switching ester every 4 weeks for maximum reciptor site juiceability)

600mg/wk Deca wk 1-14

Current stash: winny tabs, var tabs, dbols, drol tabs, 40ml tren a, 20ml inject winny, 3months gh/slin.

Recep

What do you guys think i should add to my test/deca.. cant run deca/tren togetha so forget that.

currently on my 3rd week of test/deca, sitting @ 179 lbs 5% bf puffy and round.

I want to get back up to 210, b4 comp so i can shred down to 170 3% bf.

Any suggestions, or alterations would be appriciated. Thanks guys.

Did you say reciptor site juiceability lol!

I'm adding that one to my vocab!

**D-Money** · 10-21-2006, 10:47 AM

O and I concur with perfect beast, test is test. However I've heard suspension is the most potent of all (full weight is test,no ester added) , so maybe you can add at it at contest time or something?

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:03 AM

i agree with both of you, Test is test. But chemically, they are differnt esters, therefore your body never gets used to that ester and gets full benifits. The way the test works, is all the same when it kicks in, but if your body is used to enanathate, its not gonna work as effectivley, when switchin the esters, its always fresh. Totally agree, but it works. obviously this is my opinion on the subject, but it does make sense to me.

as for food, diet is down, can bulk when i want, being a lean guy to begin with, i have no body fat. retain lots of water tho

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by D-Money

O and I concur with perfect beast, test is test. However I've heard suspension is the most potent of all (full weight is test,no ester added) , so maybe you can add at it at contest time or something?

yeah i have tried suspension, its killer stuff, shot it twice a day, n according to the profiles forum, it puts 284mg in ur blood, made me really testy tho

i was thinkin, prop,mast,var for shreddin

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by D-Money

Did you say reciptor site juiceability lol!

I'm adding that one to my vocab!

hehe

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:07 AM

goalseeker i swear im gonna steal ur bigblock tonight if you dont call me already.
wanna throw on the gloves ?

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

switching ester cannot have any benefit. An ester has nothing to do with receptors. That sounds like the sort of thing all "the Bros" at my gym would advice. The only thing the switch will do is to unsettle your blood levels.
The only thing I would add to that cycle is Food.

yeah i definetly heard it at the gym lol... are you kidding? give me alittle more credit than that mang... must be that grumpy mornin shiz. or ego bouncer shit

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

switching ester cannot have any benefit. An ester has nothing to do with receptors. That sounds like the sort of thing all "the Bros" at my gym would advice. The only thing the switch will do is to unsettle your blood levels.
The only thing I would add to that cycle is Food.

blood levels yes, by 2 days ena - cyp. not that big of a deal. but good point

i could just pump 2mls of prop to overlap.

**hosam4ever** · 10-21-2006, 02:02 PM

ive a friend of mine who used 2 be a bb competitive & he was ripped all the year besides he is a pharamacist he was talking to me about switching esters but i told u test is test as u know but he confirms that this way worked 4 him but i never tried it b4

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-22-2006, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

yeah i definetly heard it at the gym lol... are you kidding? give me alittle more credit than that mang... must be that grumpy mornin shiz. or ego bouncer shit

No it's just the fact that what your saying is complete bullshit.

**Andros** · 10-22-2006, 03:11 AM

perfectbeast is right your body doesn't change the rate at which it de-esterases your gear at any point during the cycle and once a molecule of Test has lost its ester and finds a nice receptor (which it couldn't do before hand) it doesn't matter where it came from.

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-22-2006, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Andros

perfectbeast is right your body doesn't change the rate at which it de-esterases your gear at any point during the cycle and once a molecule of Test has lost its ester and finds a nice receptor (which it couldn't do before hand) it doesn't matter where it came from.

nice try

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-22-2006, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Andros

perfectbeast is right your body doesn't change the rate at which it de-esterases your gear at any point during the cycle and once a molecule of Test has lost its ester and finds a nice receptor (which it couldn't do before hand) it doesn't matter where it came from.

yet some esters only work on certain people. hm.

**Andros** · 10-22-2006, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

yet some esters only work on certain people. hm.

Thats news to me.

Are you sure its not that some people try some esters and not feel aything cause their gear was crap and then blame it on the ester?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-22-2006, 09:20 AM

what your saying is based on Bro-logic and has no scientific grounding whatsoever. But if it works for you then great. Enjoy.

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-22-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

what your saying is based on Bro-logic and has no scientific grounding whatsoever. But if it works for you then great. Enjoy.

its not bro logic, you think i look to people at the gym for advice? just because im younger than you it doesnt give u the right to stereo type me you bald ****, because you may think you know sooo much, but hey , you dont look that great mister.

as for the esters not working yes of course some esters are not going to work on some people, As for scientific grounding. the testosterone is bound to the ester. If that ester cannot break down etc, you wont get the test.

lets put it this way. someone on this board ran 1g of cyp from a lab and it had no effect for 10 weeks, I ran the same ****in amp @ 1gram a week and its working on wk3.

Bottom line is , im here to chat/share ideas with fellow munkeys, Switching esters has worked for me, and others. So really, stop being so stubborn Im not asking you to do a cycle this way, nor have i said its the right way to do it, i have just found from my own experiences that swtichign esters allowed me to consistantly gain wieght and never stop while on cycle... Isnt that what we all want, or because im 20 your being like this. Either way, keep up the good work your interesting to talk to especially when you're stubborn like a kid and you're how old?.

Im sure Acting the way you do. helps you sleep at night tuff guy.

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-22-2006, 02:33 PM

its funny how you dis-respect me and say im the one gettin word of mouth advice, when im the one who's researched for over 2 years now. I has year b4 i did my first , ( not a long time), But hey cuz im young you look at me like that. Makes my day knowing there are immature adults everywhere!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-22-2006, 02:40 PM

1. I have no idea how old you are
2. Whats with all these "tuff guy" "doorman ego" put downs? I have never claimed to be tough. In fact i have had my ass kicked on several occasions. I just happen to work in the security industry.
3. My answer was based on what I read. I disagree with your cycle, I think it's based on heresay and not on proven science. Like I said good luck,enjoy.

**Andros** · 10-22-2006, 02:57 PM

Hey if it works more power to ya, but I personally wouldn't risk the up downs in blood levels that could cause sides based on info that has no scientific backing.

You might be right, you might be wrong you can't be certain, and in this game you have to be certain about everything.

And don't be such a hard ass on people that are trying to help you; sure he doubts your story but the reason why he has bothered to tell you he thinks you are wrong is because he wants to help.