Newbie Oral Only Cycle?

**toyman** · 10-31-2006, 01:54 PM

Hi All,

I'd like to start an oral only cycle.

I'm 5'9" and 170. Id like to put on 10 Lbs of Lean Mass and strength.

Any advice???

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by toyman

Hi All,

I'd like to start an oral only cycle.

I'm 5'9" and 170. Id like to put on 10 Lbs of Lean Mass and strength.

Any advice???

I have never done an oral only cycle, though probably will in the future. I'll list some things I may do one day.

wk 1-8 Dbol 15-30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED OMG DBOL ONLY CYLE!
AI/SERM on hand.

wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Winstrol 50-75mg/ED
wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-10 Var 50-80mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Tbol 50mg/ED
wk 1-8 Var 50mg/ED

Mix and match a few more orals and see what works for me. Dont get me wrong, I'm not against injecting, but open minded to what may work for me. Like to experiemnt I guess.

Bloodwork done every 4 weeks and PCT with either HCG , Nolva, Proviron, Aromasin using a combination of some, or all depending on the levels of suppression thats occurred.

The above dosages are what I would using judging by my limited cycle experience and use of compounds.

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 02:14 PM

By your goal of "10 lean lbs", I think I'd go with Tbol starting at 40mg/ED and working your way up to a dose that suits you best.

**goose** · 10-31-2006, 02:17 PM

Please include Andriol in any oral cycle you do....This will get you much better results and avoid possible sides.

**Booz** · 10-31-2006, 03:20 PM

goose you look better without the red wig mate.....................

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-31-2006, 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=Swifto]I have never done an oral only cycle, though probably will in the future. I'll list some things I may do one day.

wk 1-8 Dbol 15-30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED OMG DBOL ONLY CYLE!
AI/SERM on hand.

wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Winstrol 50-75mg/ED
wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-10 Var 50-80mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Tbol 50mg/ED
wk 1-8 Var 50mg/ED

[QUOTE]

Whaaa? Dbol only durrrr wrong wrong.....I've heard not to, Youll have no muscle gains, just 20lbs of water then you will sweat it out and lose all.

I like them. Except for the var one.

Dbol & Tbol/Winstrol are my 2 fav.

**davidinvienna** · 10-31-2006, 03:45 PM

this is a very interesting thread indeed - especially since i am a newb as well and am trying to get as much info out of here to put together my 1st cycle.
planned cycle start is Jan with a main aim of putting on some lean mass, cutting up and increasing explosive strength (mma, running)

1. what are the advantages/disadvantages to an oral only cyle being the very 1st time AAS use?

read up on the Tbol/Var stack - sounds like sum great components to start me off... especially for my sport - mma

so here's my 2nd Q: since Var apparently has a mildly surpressing effect on HPTA is it advisable to run Proviron throughout the whole cycle as well as PCT and add HCG for PCT or will Proviron alone do the job??

hope the originator of this post as well as all who have contributed dont mind that i have added my 2cents 2this ... would much appreciate your input.

Thank you

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=Hellmask][QUOTE=Swifto]I have never done an oral only cycle, though probably will in the future. I'll list some things I may do one day.

wk 1-8 Dbol 15-30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED OMG DBOL ONLY CYLE!
AI/SERM on hand.

wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Winstrol 50-75mg/ED
wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-10 Var 50-80mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

wk 1-8 Tbol 50mg/ED
wk 1-8 Var 50mg/ED

Whaaa? Dbol only durrrr wrong wrong.....I've heard not to, Youll have no muscle gains, just 20lbs of water then you will sweat it out and lose all.

I like them. Except for the var one.

Dbol & Tbol/Winstrol are my 2 fav.

Not all. I;ve seen many report keepable gains. Your not going to gain 20lbs and keep it all, but some will be attained. Dbol's gains arnt all water. I'll try a low dose for 6-8 weeks oneday...

**goose** · 10-31-2006, 03:55 PM

Dbol only cyles work....Best method is here: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-dianabol.asp

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-31-2006, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Not all. I;ve seen many report keepable gains. Your not going to gain 20lbs and keep it all, but some will be attained. Dbol 's gains arnt all water. I'll try a low dose for 6-8 weeks oneday...

I know bro... I was kidding about the only water thing.
I wish I ran a dbol with an AI instead of a tbol only.

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

I know bro... I was kidding about the only water thing.
I wish I ran a dbol with an AI instead of a tbol only.

Oh sorry. Bit slow tonight. Tired....Long day and all that...

**notorious_mem** · 10-31-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Dbol only cyles work....Best method is here: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-dianabol.asp

have u used this cycle method?If so please tell.

**goose** · 10-31-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by notorious_mem

have u used this cycle method?If so please tell.

Not quite but I have followed the basic principle of this.I love Dbol at low doses for longer lengths.It`s great you dont have any problems with water yet it`s still a potent drug.In my early days I ran a test and Dbol cycle for 10 weeks,Dbol at 20mg Each day for the whole 10 weeks and kept 15 pounds.LESS WATER YOU KEEP MORE,that simple.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-31-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Not quite but I have followed the basic principle of this.I love Dbol at low doses for longer lengths.It`s great you dont have any problems with water yet it`s still a potent drug.In my early days I ran a test and Dbol cycle for 10 weeks,Dbol at 20mg Each day for the whole 10 weeks and kept 15 pounds.LESS WATER YOU KEEP MORE,that simple.

What dose and for what length do you find dbol has best effect along with test.

**notorious_mem** · 10-31-2006, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Not quite but I have followed the basic principle of this.I love Dbol at low doses for longer lengths.It`s great you dont have any problems with water yet it`s still a potent drug.In my early days I ran a test and Dbol cycle for 10 weeks,Dbol at 20mg Each day for the whole 10 weeks and kept 15 pounds.LESS WATER YOU KEEP MORE,that simple.

15 lbs thats a real good gain of muscle.how much would you say u lost on that cycle?