Tren

**jeffsho28** · 11-06-2006, 09:18 AM

How long do you stay on tren for a cycle with test e 600 per week and deca 500 mg per week

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 09:38 AM

Stats And Cycle History First!!!!

**jeffsho28** · 11-06-2006, 11:54 AM

6'1" 235 25years old
ive done 7 cycles

**JohnboyF** · 11-06-2006, 11:56 AM

7 cycles! have you used tren before?

**FranKieC** · 11-06-2006, 11:57 AM

If it's your first time with Tren (As this cycle will be mine) I would suggest using Tren A. Reason being because if sides become intolerable you can discontinue and sides ill subside alot quicker than with Tren E. I am running 50-100mgs ED for my first go to see what I cann handle for 8 weeks

**fLgAtOr** · 11-06-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by jeffsho28

How long do you stay on tren for a cycle with test e 600 per week and deca 500 mg per week

You are aware that you're running two 19-nors? I'm not trying to be a parrot becuase I know its been done safely, but i hope you have the neccessary supplies on hand in case of sides..

**FranKieC** · 11-06-2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

You are aware that you're running two 19-nors? I'm not trying to be a parrot becuase I know its been done safely, but i hope you have the neccessary supplies on hand in case of sides..

Not being a parrot at all...I was going to say something but I wanted to see if anybody else picked up on that..Tai loves running Tren and Deca together but that's Tai lol

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

You are aware that you're running two 19-nors? I'm not trying to be a parrot becuase I know its been done safely, but i hope you have the neccessary supplies on hand in case of sides..

I know guys who like the combo of tren deca ... I have always been worried about it so I just run consecutively like deca first part then switch to tren or vica verca. If I were going to run deca and tren together now, it would be tren about 700mg weekly with only 150mg of deca for joint lube and a very small anabolic response.

Edit: that would be with testosterone at least replacement dose if not equal to the tren.

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 01:01 PM

start with 75/ed...see how it works for you and you have the option of bumping it up if you want...
This is my 7th cycle, and 3rd with the Tren .. About week 11 or so..Im running it at 150mg/ed, but just recently noticed dark urine, and the whites of my eyes having a slight yellowish to them. Never had this before.. could be from the high dose though....

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

start with 75/ed...see how it works for you and you have the option of bumping it up if you want...
This is my 7th cycle, and 3rd with the Tren .. About week 11 or so..Im running it at 150mg/ed, but just recently noticed dark urine, and the whites of my eyes having a slight yellowish to them. Never had this before.. could be from the high dose though....

Are you taking orals? The only two things I know yellow eyes are dnp and jaundice(liver problems).

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 01:05 PM

ran Var at 100mg/ed about 2 months ago for 6 weeks.... Two weeks ago I started Dbol at 40mg/ed, but when I noticed the urine I stopped after a week.. Running oral winny right now for the past week at 80mg/ed.....

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 01:06 PM

I go to the doc in one hour as a follow up to my physical 4 weeks ago.. He said to come back cuz my BP was slightly up, but could have been cuz of the physical I was getting at the time.....

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

I go to the doc in one hour as a follow up to my physical 4 weeks ago.. He said to come back cuz my BP was slightly up, but could have been cuz of the physical I was getting at the time.....

Have him check liver enzymes.

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 01:10 PM

what do I tell him why i want them checked? Hes really against the juice.. but who knows, maybe when I go there hes gonna look at my results and say to me, so what are you taking? Then I guess Ill have to fess up.. dont wanna lose his respect.....whats normal for liver enzymes?

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

what do I tell him why i want them checked? Hes really against the juice.. but who knows, maybe when I go there hes gonna look at my results and say to me, so what are you taking? Then I guess Ill have to fess up.. dont wanna lose his respect.....whats normal for liver enzymes?

Tell him to look at your eyes, that you have noticed yellowing. You could tell him anything... like you have been drinking alot, the truth, or even just say you are on a high protien diet as that can stress the liver. He will tell you if it is in the normal range. I dont know, I just let my doctor let me know when things are right or not.

**goalseeker** · 11-06-2006, 04:18 PM

results came back great on everything... except my cholesterol is terrible... almost the lowest he has ever seen....might be time for niacin

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-07-2006, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

results came back great on everything... except my cholesterol is terrible... almost the lowest he has ever seen....might be time for niacin

That is the winny talking. Also, did they check liver enzymes? How did they get the tests back that quick?

**goalseeker** · 11-07-2006, 11:30 AM

I had the physical 3 weeks or so ago....
He said my good cholesterol was terribly low. Should be between .85 - 1.45 and mine is at .46. as compared to 2 years ago when it was good at .95. I just started the winny a week ago, and the tests were done 3 weeks ago.and that was right after I was running Var, masteron and Prop, and Tren ....He took another blood sample yesterday to recheck again... I go back in 3 weeks....

**goalseeker** · 11-07-2006, 02:08 PM

Now Im getting concerned. This morning after a quick testosterone session with the wife, she pointed out the color of it.. It was as yellow as my urine...Never seen this before either... I gotta go get checked out and gonna be stoppin this cycle right away... this cant be good for me...

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-08-2006, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Now Im getting concerned. This morning after a quick testosterone session with the wife, she pointed out the color of it.. It was as yellow as my urine...Never seen this before either... I gotta go get checked out and gonna be stoppin this cycle right away... this cant be good for me...

Well the cholesterol is prolly the winny... The yellowing of the eyes is a sign of liver challenges(prolly); Do you take liv protection? Like milkthistle, dandelion root, or even ala for that matter?