Neeed Some Professional Advice For This Cycle....

[BIGPHIL]

WEEK
1:- 30mg dbol ED + Test Cyp 250mg + 250mg Test prop
2:- 30 mg dbol ED + Test Cyp 250 mg +250mg Test prop
3:- 30mg dbol ED + Test Cyp 250mg + 250mg Test prop
4:- 30mg dbol ED + Test Cyp 250mg +250mg Test prop

5:-Test Cyp 250mg +250mg Test prop
6:-Test Cyp 250mg +250mg Test prop
7:-Test Cyp 250mg +250mg Test prop+ HCG 1000 I.U on Friday
8:-Test Cyp 250mg +250mg Test prop+ HCG 1000 I.U on Thursday

9:-Anavar 50mg ED+HCG 500 I.U on Tuesday
10:-Anavar 50mg ED+ HCG 500 I.U on Sunday
11:-Anavar 30mg ED + HCG 500 I.U on Friday

12:-Clomid 100mg ED/Novla 20mg ED + 500 I.U on Wedensday
13:-Clomid 50mg ED/Novla 20mg ED+tribulus+zma
14:-Clomid 50mg ED/Novla 20mg ED+tribulus+zma
15:-Clomid 50mg ED/Novla20mg ED+tribulus+zma

A number of questions
How many days should i leave between Test Cyp and test Prop injections per week?(i.e on what days should they be given?? i was thinking Cyp mon and test prop thurs???ok??
HOw about propinate every 3rd day at 200mg so in a week and cypionate oncae a week:

mon-cyp 250mg
tue-prop 200mg
wed-
thur-prop 200mg
fri
sat--prop 200mg
sun


Would there be an advantage of using propinate over deca ,if so what?

What is my HCG therapy like, any opinons?

Would i be better running letro/femara a week before i start the cycle to let levels stabalise in the blood or run the letro/femara from week7 out and into PCT, i was thinking of 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks, any opinons? I feel i should leave it toward the end of my cycl as low estrogen levels at the start combined with all that test will **** up my lipid profiles big style???

[JohnboyF]

your 18 correcT?

[BIGPHIL]

your 18 correcT?

Yes correct!! its only for the show my friend nothing else,,not just to get big.Everyone else i in the juniours (u 21) juices and its only giving me a fair chacne against the others

[marcus300]

Your to young to even consider taking any form of AAS, you have alot of natural weight what you need to build first without taking gear, build a solid base to work from and AAS will be far more affective, at 18yrs old you have all the hormones you need, just concentrate on your diet and training program, you will be greatfull in the long run,

[BIGPHIL]

Your to young to even consider taking any form of AAS, you have alot of natural weight what you need to build first without taking gear, build a solid base to work from and AAS will be far more affective, at 18yrs old you have all the hormones you need, just concentrate on your diet and training program, you will be greatfull in the long run,

what if i go in to compete and all the rest are juicing..it will be an embarassement??? and i so badly wanna compete!there are no natural shows in northern ireland

[marcus300]

what if i go in to compete and all the rest are juicing..it will be an embarassement??? and i so badly wanna compete!there are no natural shows in northern ireland

The end dissission is up to you but ive seen problems with BB's who start to young, you could damage your own HPTA system and end up with all sorts of problems, i wouldnt advice any 18yr old to juice, you have it all at your age, if you cant build now your doing something wrong anyway, in the long run it will be far better for you, gains are maintainable if you have a good solid base, put as much weight and mass on as possible natural then consider taking something in a few years

[Random]

The end dissission is up to you but ive seen problems with BB's who start to young, you could damage your own HPTA system and end up with all sorts of problems, i wouldnt advice any 18yr old to juice, you have it all at your age, if you cant build now your doing something wrong anyway, in the long run it will be far better for you, gains are maintainable if you have a good solid base, put as much weight and mass on as possible natural then consider taking something in a few years

I completely agree...who cares if others are juicing, you can still do the show naturally, there are plenty of naturals who look like they juice, its all about hard work and dedication...CD

[Bigmax]

Bro,The end decision is your but lets look at the long term...you're competing for what??..a trophy?medal??..to show your freinds up??..IMO not worth the problems that you can have later on by shutting your self down so early in life...as MARCUS said building a good solid base(which you're on a good path if thats you in the avvy)will give you that much better gains.

[Bigmax]

Also ...remember just cause you're juicing doesnt mean you will look the best on stage...anyone that has been on stage knows that!!!!

[BIGPHIL]

Also ...remember just cause you're juicing doesnt mean you will look the best on stage...anyone that has been on stage knows that!!!!

yea true true!! diet and training

[Random]

Something to consider man, if i were you, id spend the money you were planning on spending towards gear and use it to get a trainer/nutritionist that knows what hes doin so you can get another advantage towards your upcoming show...

[Bigmax]

yea true true!! diet and training

There you go bro!!!...show them the sweat and dedication you have do the best you can and get up on stage and show them what an 18yr old can do without AAS.

[BIGPHIL]

There you go bro!!!...show them the sweat and dedication you have do the best you can and get up on stage and show them what an 18yr old can do without AAS.

liked that!! thanks

[BIGPHIL]

There you go bro!!!...show them the sweat and dedication you have do the best you can and get up on stage and show them what an 18yr old can do without AAS.

liked that!! thanks

[BIGPHIL]

There you go bro!!!...show them the sweat and dedication you have do the best you can and get up on stage and show them what an 18yr old can do without AAS.

liked that!! thanks

[Bigsoupman]

You wont need juice to win the Northern Ireland juniors if that is you in that pic. Ive been going to that show for the last ten years and its only rarely you get more than 2 lads entering and 1 always looks like he has never trained before. There was a lad from Londonderry who won it a few years back and went on to win the Worlds and Universe. He was on juice and from what I heard his boiler went and he completely lost the plot.

Im not criticising you for using juice as I know plenty who started at your age, even one who won the junior Ni back in the day. I just dont think you need it for that show, judgin by your pic. I'll be keeping an eye out for you in March though.

[BIGPHIL]

You wont need juice to win the Northern Ireland juniors if that is you in that pic. Ive been going to that show for the last ten years and its only rarely you get more than 2 lads entering and 1 always looks like he has never trained before. There was a lad from Londonderry who won it a few years back and went on to win the Worlds and Universe. He was on juice and from what I heard his boiler went and he completely lost the plot.

Im not criticising you for using juice as I know plenty who started at your age, even one who won the junior Ni back in the day. I just dont think you need it for that show, judgin by your pic. I'll be keeping an eye out for you in March though.

Good to see another Northern irelannd bro on the board..Cheers m8 your comments are very motivating.thank you!!! have you got msn or anything bro where abouts u from and were u train e.t.c u competing this march..IM hopefully going in not this march but next and ill be 19 then..

[Bigsoupman]

Sorry it took so long to reply. Theres a few boys from NI kicking around on these forums, more on muscletalk than here though. As for me Im from Belfast and Ive been training at Fitness First Connswater for the last few years. Mainly because its near my house and full of eye candy! Ive trained in a few gyms though, Queens has a good weights room but it could do with a spruce up. Most of the big boys are training in the Rock Pit in Lisburn these days but its a bit hardcore for my taste.

I'll not be competing in March but ill definately be there. If I were you, judging by your pic, Id enter. You look bigger than a lot of the lads ive seen entering of the years and even they are well appreciated. Everyone knows it takes some balls to get up there. Whats the worst that could happen?

Saying that, if you enter and win you wont be eligible to enter the following year. I think thats right. So some people wait until they are at the age limit as after that you're going to have to enter the first timers and thats a big step up.

Whatever you choose, good luck!

[BIGPHIL]

Sorry it took so long to reply. Theres a few boys from NI kicking around on these forums, more on muscletalk than here though. As for me Im from Belfast and Ive been training at Fitness First Connswater for the last few years. Mainly because its near my house and full of eye candy! Ive trained in a few gyms though, Queens has a good weights room but it could do with a spruce up. Most of the big boys are training in the Rock Pit in Lisburn these days but its a bit hardcore for my taste.

I'll not be competing in March but ill definately be there. If I were you, judging by your pic, Id enter. You look bigger than a lot of the lads ive seen entering of the years and even they are well appreciated. Everyone knows it takes some balls to get up there. Whats the worst that could happen?

Saying that, if you enter and win you wont be eligible to enter the following year. I think thats right. So some people wait until they are at the age limit as after that you're going to have to enter the first timers and thats a big step up.

Whatever you choose, good luck!

yeah i train down at rockpit, the ages groups under 23??correct?? nah m8 i wanna wait and go in next year and tear the place apart lol cheers..have u got msn bro?

[Bigsoupman]

Probably got MSN somewhere but no idea how to use it. you can email me at [email protected]

Im not sure if its under 23, i was pretty confident it was 21 but perhaps its changed.

A mate of mine called Tony trains down at the Rockpit sometimes, when he can be bothered!