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    answer to negative effect TREN has on ENDURANCE? eq?

    through my reading the only thing i can come up with is tren 's endurance problems are related to red blood cells

    through experience with both, can anyway say a high dose of eq is enough to make it so tren wont destroy endurance? as a wrestler i cannot afford the endurance issues but i would like to spend some more time with tren.

    are there other things you have experienced to help fight tren's endurance problems?




    also does methyl-tren have the same effect on endurance as tren?

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    Yes eq will help your endurance a lot on tren . If i dont have eq in my tren cycle i cant even do cardio. But it does not help 100%. The other thing is do not soot that in the same syringe. I dont know why but you tend to get the cough much worse.

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    would B-12 help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Yes eq will help your endurance a lot on tren. If i dont have eq in my tren cycle i cant even do cardio. But it does not help 100%. The other thing is do not soot that in the same syringe. I dont know why but you tend to get the cough much worse.
    what sort of doses are you talking about?
    and not 100% is understandable but are we talking about 80% or 40% better?

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    i would say 75% or so. I run eq at 600 to 800mg. all depends on the tren dose.

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    do you think with eq at 200mged and tren at 50-75mg ed you could make it 100%?

    i mean my main thing is right now its wrestling season, i love the effects of tren (strength, agression) but i cannot deal with or risk the slightest rink in endurance. if i cannot compensate 100% then im gonna have to count tren out

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    No your never going to get back 100% dont even try.

    Then drop the tren and replace with halo.

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    i <3 halo

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    i <3 halo

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    haha thats a heart
    i love halo

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    ok you say so.

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    have you any methyl tren experience gsxxr?

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    I have it i just have not worked up the balls to run it yet.

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    do you know anyone who has that i can ask about the effects on endurance? whitey is the inly one i know of and i asked on ifl already

    and thanks for all the help buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    through my reading the only thing i can come up with is tren 's endurance problems are related to red blood cells

    through experience with both, can anyway say a high dose of eq is enough to make it so tren wont destroy endurance? as a wrestler i cannot afford the endurance issues but i would like to spend some more time with tren.

    are there other things you have experienced to help fight tren's endurance problems?




    also does methyl-tren have the same effect on endurance as tren?

    oh man... tren had we winded after going up a flight of stairs.



    thats an interesting idea to run equi to counteract this. but either way, im sure youl be fine for endurance while on tren... plus the strength gains are insane

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    ALthough running EQ might help with endurance, it may make you feel like shit still, due to an increase in RBC. Its not like tren doesnt cause this.

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    isnt there a magic pill i can take to make me 300 pounds with 2% body fat and no side effects in 3 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    isnt there a magic pill i can take to make me 300 pounds with 2% body fat and no side effects in 3 days

    Let me know when you find it.

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    oh i just found it w/u me 100k i have it to your house in a day or 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    oh man... tren had we winded after going up a flight of stairs.



    thats an interesting idea to run equi to counteract this. but either way, im sure youl be fine for endurance while on tren... plus the strength gains are insane
    do you have methyl tren experience ?

    i dont know if you read the whole thread but this is wrestling season i cant afford a loss of endurance

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    oh i just found it w/u me 100k i have it to your house in a day or 2

    check your local w/u ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    do you have methyl tren experience ?

    i dont know if you read the whole thread but this is wrestling season i cant afford a loss of endurance

    actually no, the only type of tren ive used is tren acetate.

    btw, i eventually read about how you're in wrestling and all that. i dont think there is any way you can take tren and be anywhere near 100% for endurance... i think i remember someone saying that winstrol is good for endurance though

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    I feel like a 500lb slob with asthma and Emphysema on tren . I couldn;t imagine ever competing in a sport while using it. I even get winded after each set of weights (of course I'm also lifting more than I ever have in my life).

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    I almost always take both tren and EQ together and still have the stamina issues. I usually go with 75-100 mg tren ED and about 800 mg EQ/week. Like someone else said here, the EQ helps some. If you are wrestling I wouldnt take tren at all, even with taking a decent dose of EQ your endurance will suffer very badly.

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    yeah even eq by itself causes stamina issues for me.. not while doing cardio but while grappling...

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    im contemplating cycling at all durring season maybe it will be too much stress on my heart i feel much more energy when off

    maybe ill save all this for after season and maybe just try some EQ alone for a little while

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    Since Tren causes a rise in prostalandin formation that contributes to bronchial constriction, someone that I correspond with via e-mail has tried using Clenbuterol (a bronchiodilator) along with their tren to lessen the effects. He reported decent results.

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    but i have read that clen itself cause cause endurance issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    but i have read that clen itself cause cause endurance issues
    Clen killed my cardio when grappling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nytol
    Clen killed my cardio when grappling.
    yeah im for sure gonna save this all for after season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Since Tren causes a rise in prostalandin formation that contributes to bronchial constriction, someone that I correspond with via e-mail has tried using Clenbuterol (a bronchiodilator) along with their tren to lessen the effects. He reported decent results.
    So then how do you think Albuterol would work?????

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    What is albuterol inhalation aerosol?
    ALBUTEROL (Proventil&#174;, Ventolin&#174 is a bronchodilator, a medicine that opens up your air passages and makes breathing easier. It is a medicine for patients with various lung problems such as asthma and chronic bronchitis. Albuterol aerosol controls acute episodes or prevents recurring bouts of bronchospasm. It is useful for the prevention of exercise-induced bronchospasm. Generic albuterol inhalation aerosol is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    So then how do you think Albuterol would work?????
    good thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    good thinking
    you have to take it 2x a day due to the short half life. Not realuy that big of a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    you have to take it 2x a day due to the short half life. Not realuy that big of a deal.
    you need a prescription though right? ill be willing to try this as an experiment after season, along with eq

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    you need a prescription though right? ill be willing to try this as an experiment after season, along with eq


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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine
    you need a prescription though right? ill be willing to try this as an experiment after season, along with eq
    If you can get Tren and EQ, I assume prescriptions aren't a huge factor in your cycle criteria...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Since Tren causes a rise in prostalandin formation that contributes to bronchial constriction, someone that I correspond with via e-mail has tried using Clenbuterol (a bronchiodilator) along with their tren to lessen the effects. He reported decent results.

    So what are your thoghts on someone who already has asthma and uses Advair daily? Would that help to counter the effects of tren as well??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    So what are your thoghts on someone who already has asthma and uses Advair daily? Would that help to counter the effects of tren as well??
    I dont see why it wont help.

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