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    criticize this cycle

    yay. just received my gear ;]

    1-14 test e @ 200mg/week (to keep my levels stable and dick up)
    1-4 test prop 100mg eod
    2-6 tren a @ 100mg ed
    1-16 deca @ 400mg/week
    1-16 eq @ 400mg/week
    11-16 @ winstrol oral @ 50mg ed

    is letro necessary for this ? im only using the prop for a month because of dht problems, using spiro ed for this.

    how does it look ?

    pct = nolvadex

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    Letro may not be needed, if you do use the letro a dose like .5mg E3D. Some cabergoline would be a good option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odix
    yay. just received my gear ;]

    1-17 test e @ 200mg/week (to keep my levels stable and dick up)
    1-4 test prop 100mg eod
    1-8 tren a @ 100mg ed
    1-16 deca @ 400mg/week
    1-16 eq @ 400mg/week
    15-PCT@ winstrol oral @ 100mg ed

    is letro necessary for this ? im only using the prop for a month because of dht problems, using spiro ed for this.

    how does it look ?

    pct = nolvadex
    prop is a test I dont see why you are concered with test converting to dht and not the winny. If you are worried about dht hairloss from test try proscar but this will do nothing for tren/deca/winny.

    enth takes 2wks to clear for pct so if you are using just to mantain sex drive you would need to run it 1wk past the eq/deca since those take 3wks. Then take winny for 5wks, 3which will be when you are waiting for the compounds to clear for pct since winny is out in 24hrs. personally if i dont run test higher then deca/tren i lose sex drive....

    I would say you need alittle more of a pct then just nolva. consider aromisin, clomid, nolva maybe even hcg ...



    Quote Originally Posted by BajanBastard
    Letro may not be needed, if you do use the letro a dose like .5mg E3D. Some cabergoline would be a good option.
    I would say deff use run letro. Its cheap and keeps the estro away. I use .25mg-0.5mg ED and when I feel a flare up I raise the dose .25mg ED until 2.5 then I lower it again to .25mg. For me the dose I run depends on the compounds I am running. I am more gyno prone when using nadro's/tren vs test.

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    so would running the deca /eq @ 15 weeks work while running the test at 16, then are you saying start the winny @16 weeks or at 14-19?

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    briansauras..from what i understand just because a steroid is dht-derived does not mean it converts to dht.. i could be way off.

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    cycle is a mess try again and tren will make your hair shed like a dog if test does, good luck. caber is a must w/ tren and deca as well. 250mcg eod to be safe. do some research on it.

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    well if the tren is too much i can stop, benefit of those short half-lifes ;p

    here we go.

    1-15 test e @ 200mg/week (to keep my levels stable and dick up)
    1-4 test prop 100mg ed
    2-6 tren a @ 100mg ed
    1-14 deca @ 400mg/week
    1-14 eq @ 400mg/week
    14-18 winstrol (possible masteron ) @ 50mg ed

    17-21 PCT with clomid/letro or nolva/arimidex or any ai/serm combo

    is ALL hairloss permanent with any aas?

    also running carb @ suggested dose

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    ok still wrong ok lets do this:
    wk1-15 400mg ew
    wk1-6 50mg dbol
    wk1-8 50mg tren a ed
    wk1-14 600mg eq
    wk9-15 75mg mastron prop ed
    wk1-9 250mcg cabergoline eod
    wk1-15 .25 mg adex ed or .25 letro ed
    wk17-20 clomid/nolva for pct

    need the test bro stay w/ this and you will do great. and the pct is good.
    try it youll thank me later. pm me for more questions or email [email protected]

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    i would say out of that cycle the last thing you should be worried about being converted to dht is the test.

    ok first of all what are your stats? what is the goal of this cycle? what is your cycle history?

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    dude i may be wrong again, but isn't test the only aas that directly converts to dht ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odix
    dude i may be wrong again, but isn't test the only aas that directly converts to dht ?
    all of them convert to dht except maybe var/eq. answer the questions above and also why dont you want to run test highest?

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