Steroids in Australian

[in2shape]

^^^ HaHaHaHa!...
El Gaybo...LMFAO!.... Okay okay guys, i must say, when i went to OZ 2 years ago it really amazed me what a great KUNTry u guys have, it so clean, very little crime and most citizens obey the law... Which is fannytastic but yo sons o bitches cant play sport for sh*t, ur rugby is currenlty worse than Zimbabwe's and u have mental retarded players in ur cricket team. But when i stayed in Sydney for 2 weeks all i saw was Gay mo-fo's, and i think i spotted Ranging, Tiny T-Gunz,Hustlebrah, and in2shape(round is also a shape) including Syd-bloke all get ass raped infront the Sydney operah house begging for Chinese dingaling up ur behinds. and not to mention Terraj, he was the main gay pimp!! SO u have nothing on me mate's, shag a fvking sheep wontcha??? lol

Peace

hhheeeyyy , el gay bo where u been brotha ????!!! lol!!!!! u are 1 funny mutha fuka!!!!!!! ok dude we gotta sort some sh!t out 1st things 1st

totally agree with ya melbourne is fuking gay !!!! they love it str8 up the chocolate star fish, latte sippin poofs i tells ya . the good old cadbury highway !!!!!

and

yup the sheep bro there in new zealand , when you need a root jump on a flight over there , BUT dont 4get to pack 4 gumboots and some velcro gloves that way sheep cant run from ya and you got some pull on those gloves when it sticks to tha sheep ( they produce wool brotha - i know i know not just a pretty face full of info lmao )

now other than that this is 1 helova thread some funny shit at least us aussies can have a luaghand south afrika lol gaybo ..... wont mention those americ.......... nup wont mention em lol

all good boys peace out !!!!!!!!

[*El Diablo*]

HaHaHaHaHa!... i hate all of u.
all in the name of Fun guys!

Peace.

[ranging1]

^^^ HaHaHaHa!...
El Gaybo...LMFAO!.... Okay okay guys, i must say, when i went to OZ 2 years ago it really amazed me what a great KUNTry u guys have, it so clean, very little crime and most citizens obey the law... Which is fannytastic but yo sons o bitches cant play sport for sh*t, ur rugby is currenlty worse than Zimbabwe's and u have mental retarded players in ur cricket team. But when i stayed in Sydney for 2 weeks all i saw was Gay mo-fo's, and i think i spotted Ranging, Tiny T-Gunz,Hustlebrah, and in2shape(round is also a shape) including Syd-bloke all get ass raped infront the Sydney operah house begging for Chinese dingaling up ur behinds. and not to mention Terraj, he was the main gay pimp!! SO u have nothing on me mate's, shag a fvking sheep wontcha??? lol


Peace

lol viva el gaybo doesnt south africa have one of the highest crime rates in the world?...... hmmmmm

lol thank god im from melbourne not sydney so it wasnt me, howver i have no doubt that the others were making love since their from sydney

lmfao shag a sheep thats NZ, god u south africans arent the brightest bunch

There is plenty of it melb, just go to one of those rave things where t shirts are forbidden, massive guys everywhere.

lol thats me , except im one of the big aussies with my top off, not the fully sik lebos with tight fluro short shorts and their bum bags, and their hats pointing to the sky

hhheeeyyy , el gay bo where u been brotha ????!!! lol!!!!! u are 1 funny mutha fuka!!!!!!! ok dude we gotta sort some sh!t out 1st things 1st

totally agree with ya melbourne is fuking gay !!!! they love it str8 up the chocolate star fish, latte sippin poofs i tells ya . the good old cadbury highway !!!!!

and

yup the sheep bro there in new zealand , when you need a root jump on a flight over there , BUT dont 4get to pack 4 gumboots and some velcro gloves that way sheep cant run from ya and you got some pull on those gloves when it sticks to tha sheep ( they produce wool brotha - i know i know not just a pretty face full of info lmao )

now other than that this is 1 helova thread some funny shit at least us aussies can have a luaghand south afrika lol gaybo ..... wont mention those americ.......... nup wont mention em lol

all good boys peace out !!!!!!!!

^^^^ i think ur gay with el gaybo, i sense some sexual tension between u 2...

melbourne rules

HaHaHaHaHa!... i hate all of u.
all in the name of Fun guys!

Peace.

LOVE U 2


lol this thread rules, so keeping this bumped

[in2shape]

HaHaHaHaHa!... i hate all of u.
all in the name of Fun guys!

Peace.

yeah bro all fun until some gets sausage stashed in there bum !!!!! uhhhumm MELBOURNE BOYS are now fighting ....

me 1st me 1st lmfao !!!!!

relax fellas all fun

[syd-bloke]

IT'S GREAT TO BE A SOUF EFRIKAN

1. You can eat half dried meat and not be considered disgusting.
2. Nothing is your fault; you can blame it all on apartheid.
3. You get to buy a new car every 3 months and the insurance company even pays for it.
4. You can experience pathetic service in eleven official languages.
5. Where else can you get oranges with 45% alcohol content at rugby matches?
6. It's the only country in the world where striking workers show how angry they are by dancing.
7. You're considered clumsy if you cannot: use a cell phone (without car kit), change CDs, drink a beer, put on make-up, read the newspaper and smoke, all at the same time while driving a car at 160 kph in a 60kph zone.
8. Great accent.
9. If you live in Johannesburg, you get to brag about living in the most dangerous city in the world.
10. Burglar bars become a feature, and a great selling point for your house.
11. You can decorate your garden walls with barbed wire.
12. The tow-trucks are the first on the scene for most major crimes, without being called. The police you have to call about three times.
13. Votes have to be recounted until the right party wins.
14. Illegal immigrants leave the country because the crime rate is too high.
15. The police ask you if they must follow up on the burglary you've just reported.
16. A murderer gets a 6 month sentence and a pirate TV viewer 2 years.
17. The prisoners strike and get to vote in elections!
18. The police stations have panic buttons to call armed response when they are burgled.
19. Police cars are fitted with immobilisers and gear locks!
20. Condoms for free. Plastic grocery bags you pay for.

[scamp]

There's just so much fake shit due to our tight ass laws in australia.

i reckon for every 10 vials i see, 7 or 8 are fakes. and i'm not bullshittin'. Even our beloved bladders are now becoming rare to find legit ones. i see fakes getting around every day, from Dbols to Deca . We are so unlucky on that side of things.

But on the other side of the spectrum, Needles are free and plentiful, thanks to our abundant heroin attics.

America has the exact opposite. Illegal pins, but good, cheap and easy to obtain gear. just look at the range these guys can get. some of the things you hear these guys are on in this forum, you can't even get in australia.

needles arent illegal in america they are actually free at needle exchange programs and you can buy them in pharmacys

[drgnball]

what state are you from. Im also from perth and finding it hard aswell

[*El Diablo*]

what state are you from. Im also from perth and finding it hard aswell

Another Australian..? lol.. No offence.

[gonzo6183]

You guys are nuts... We have some of the best gear in the world available here, only thing I have seen that was fake was some Dbol but apart from that do your homework and the shit here rocks, sure its expensive as F*#k but its good as readily available, anywhere and everywhere... So get on and go hard. Melbourne, Sydney, Perth now Karratha.

[pjpogz]

Hello to my fellow aussies! Im from Sydney - i agree, its a bit of a mission finding stuff and at times it can be pricey.

But I have to say PCT prices are the worse! Lol

So i'm trying out research companies instead...see how that goes

[rcb123]

i lived in perth 4 six years could not get hold of any thing. now back in newzealand its easy its a growing thing here now. but i know what it is like not to be able to obtain gear it suxs.

[rcb123]

u have more sheep over there num nuts

[Mr.Rose]

im waitin for a bro to come back from thailand with some real gear.....i doubt he will get it through customs tho

Did he get though?

Kale you say you get through no problem. Im in thailand now, whats the best way i can get stuff through. Would strapping some test vials to my upper legs help at all and wear like long pants????
Or would sniffer dogs detect it? or are they just detecting illicit drugs?

But sh*t here is aus is so fuuuuuuuuuking expensive?

[pjpogz]

bro i wouldn't risk bringing anything from thailand to sydney lol...not worth the risk! just pay the $ to save u from hassles

[Kale]

Did he get though?

Kale you say you get through no problem. Im in thailand now, whats the best way i can get stuff through. Would strapping some test vials to my upper legs help at all and wear like long pants????
Or would sniffer dogs detect it? or are they just detecting illicit drugs?

But sh*t here is aus is so fuuuuuuuuuking expensive?

What I do is put it on my carry on when I get on the plane and then before we land I just put it in my pockets. Dont strap it to your body as the scanners may detect the metal on the vial caps. Carry on is fine as long as you dont have huge amounts. Coming in your bags will be scanned but you wont be. You would have to be really stiff to cop a body search coming in. Its never happened to me in 30 years of traveling.

[newyboy]

From Newcastle here! Havnt found it too hard to get good gear.. cant tell u how but :P

[Mr.Rose]

go find a huge guy in ur gym and befriend him, he might make you drop the soap a few times, dw thats just how the shit works...

If they detect the metal in the vials, wont they when its in ur pockets???. What do you mean by stiff? like look like you are a drug mule? nah im sweet i can act calm.

What if i bring vials strapped to me? would the the heat from my boddy **** the test prop up??

[Mr.Rose]

would sniffer dogs sniff test vials?? i know they can sniff illicit drugs and organic matter like food n shit.

[ranging1]

go find a huge guy in ur gym and befriend him, he might make you drop the soap a few times, dw thats just how the shit works...

If they detect the metal in the vials, wont they when its in ur pockets???. What do you mean by stiff? like look like you are a drug mule? nah im sweet i can act calm.

What if i bring vials strapped to me? would the the heat from my boddy **** the test prop up??

lol i say just go to a dance event like summerdayz or sensation, and ask one of the guys who are the size of arnold schwazzengger and have pupils the size of walnuts, and cant stop saying i love you for their phone numbers

and wa la, you have a good source

would sniffer dogs sniff test vials?? i know they can sniff illicit drugs and organic matter like food n shit.

no sniffer dogs cant pick up test vials, their not trained for that

most sniffer dogs can onyl sniff out 1-2 narcotics, their actually specialy trained to sniff out certain drugs

meaning next time youve got drugs and see a dog dont run instantly lol, 50% chance he isnt trained to smell what youve got lol


AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

OI OI OI

anyone heard from viva EL GAYBO?

havent seen him in awhile on this board

[skeldno]

God i would love to be over in austailia at the mo due to the weather here but you have some strict laws lol. my mate got raided with bout 5k worth of juice wen raided but where he had open vials and empty ones they never touched it just took some loose tabs which he culd have got back lol

[stevey_6t9]

God i would love to be over in austailia at the mo due to the weather here but you have some strict laws lol. my mate got raided with bout 5k worth of juice wen raided but where he had open vials and empty ones they never touched it just took some loose tabs which he culd have got back lol

Your allowed to posses roids in the UK but arent you?

[Mr.Rose]

WAIT!

so your telling me i can strapt a whole 12week cycle of test prop vials (they are small too) onto my upper thigh with some duck tape, wear under -briefs, then some a suit (suits make you look less suspicious) i can walk through customs without a doubt? like im a great actor so i can act natural. What are the odds?

Also im bringing in t3, t4, nolva, and viagra, none are on the illegal import lsit so i can import them, but i have to declare them, so when they see that would they be like, "hey this guy might have roids lets search him?" so should i ditch the other gear and just take the prop???

[Kdub]

There's just so much fake shit due to our tight ass laws in australia.

i reckon for every 10 vials i see, 7 or 8 are fakes. and i'm not bullshittin'. Even our beloved bladders are now becoming rare to find legit ones. i see fakes getting around every day, from Dbols to Deca . We are so unlucky on that side of things.

But on the other side of the spectrum, Needles are free and plentiful, thanks to our abundant heroin attics.

America has the exact opposite. Illegal pins, but good, cheap and easy to obtain gear. just look at the range these guys can get. some of the things you hear these guys are on in this forum, you can't even get in australia.

When I left in 96 the 200 ml Cyp, 200 ml Enan and 500 ml Prop bladders were turning S4. Use to get them OTC at livestock supply places for less than a good dinner. What is the status now? I suppose it has all gone to $hit.

[Mr.Rose]

and the vials are glass, and dogs cant sniff through glass, and then ill wrap them in plastic??

[stevey_6t9]

WAIT!

so your telling me i can strapt a whole 12week cycle of test prop vials (they are small too) onto my upper thigh with some duck tape, wear under -briefs, then some a suit (suits make you look less suspicious) i can walk through customs without a doubt? like im a great actor so i can act natural. What are the odds?

Also im bringing in t3, t4, nolva, and viagra, none are on the illegal import lsit so i can import them, but i have to declare them, so when they see that would they be like, "hey this guy might have roids lets search him?" so should i ditch the other gear and just take the prop???

lol man u remind me of chapelle corby. be careful, strap them good. remeber dogs can sniff cancer cells in patients and might b able to get orals on the scent.

[ranging1]

WAIT!

so your telling me i can strapt a whole 12week cycle of test prop vials (they are small too) onto my upper thigh with some duck tape, wear under -briefs, then some a suit (suits make you look less suspicious) i can walk through customs without a doubt? like im a great actor so i can act natural. What are the odds?

Also im bringing in t3, t4, nolva, and viagra, none are on the illegal import lsit so i can import them, but i have to declare them, so when they see that would they be like, "hey this guy might have roids lets search him?" so should i ditch the other gear and just take the prop???

and the vials are glass, and dogs cant sniff through glass, and then ill wrap them in plastic??

lmfao man u can try but remeber if you get busted you can go to prison for a LONGGGGGGGG time over here

and the fine is hugeeeeeeeeeeeee

i wouldnt be worried about the dogs, id be more worried about the metal detectors, random searches, body checks and everyhting else weve got going on here

i woudlnt try it

[Mr.Rose]

ive been doing a lot of reading and asked an actual sniffer dog trainer, and dogs cannot smell through glass or airtight plastic, hence a t prop vial is safe, and dogs are trained to sniff drugs not test. So im pretty safe.

Random body searches? there is no way in hell they would pull a random person out to do a body search unless a dog sniffed them or something was xrayed in their baggage.

[Mr.Rose]

oh and stevey, i love your DP, :P

Does anyone know how customs operate? This is my first overseas trip. If i have a small amount of vials like 40 or so strapped to my leg, wear a suit, act natural. how would i get caught. They dont just search randoms, and ill do it in such a way that it isnt noticeable. Like im not like this idiot bellow.

[Rider]

I thought you guys in Australia had access in vet stuff!

[charlesriley]

There's just so much fake shit due to our tight ass laws in australia.

i reckon for every 10 vials i see, 7 or 8 are fakes. and i'm not bullshittin'. Even our beloved bladders are now becoming rare to find legit ones. i see fakes getting around every day, from Dbols to Deca . We are so unlucky on that side of things.

But on the other side of the spectrum, Needles are free and plentiful, thanks to our abundant heroin attics.

America has the exact opposite. Illegal pins, but good, cheap and easy to obtain gear. just look at the range these guys can get. some of the things you hear these guys are on in this forum, you can't even get in australia.

na bro needles can be bought a tractor supplies and are not illegal. i get my 22 gauges and filters at tractor supply bbut even non vet needles are not illegal. they are soooo legal

[charlesriley]

mailing powder i hear is pretty easy. in fact i am sure there is a 100% succses rate for mailing powder.

swim mixes the powder with extreeeemly soluble inert filler and after it dissolves and his directions he sends to prepare the pure powder it is potent and his shit is used by aussie guys and they love him for it.

[charlesriley]

IT'S GREAT TO BE A SOUF EFRIKAN

1. You can eat half dried meat and not be considered disgusting.
2. Nothing is your fault; you can blame it all on apartheid.
3. You get to buy a new car every 3 months and the insurance company even pays for it.
4. You can experience pathetic service in eleven official languages.
5. Where else can you get oranges with 45% alcohol content at rugby matches?
6. It's the only country in the world where striking workers show how angry they are by dancing.
7. You're considered clumsy if you cannot: use a cell phone (without car kit), change CDs, drink a beer, put on make-up, read the newspaper and smoke, all at the same time while driving a car at 160 kph in a 60kph zone.
8. Great accent.
9. If you live in Johannesburg, you get to brag about living in the most dangerous city in the world.
10. Burglar bars become a feature, and a great selling point for your house.
11. You can decorate your garden walls with barbed wire.
12. The tow-trucks are the first on the scene for most major crimes, without being called. The police you have to call about three times.
13. Votes have to be recounted until the right party wins.
14. Illegal immigrants leave the country because the crime rate is too high.
15. The police ask you if they must follow up on the burglary you've just reported.
16. A murderer gets a 6 month sentence and a pirate TV viewer 2 years.
17. The prisoners strike and get to vote in elections!
18. The police stations have panic buttons to call armed response when they are burgled.
19. Police cars are fitted with immobilisers and gear locks!
20. Condoms for free. Plastic grocery bags you pay for.

[in2shape]

recently went to thai ..... gear i sent back using carbon paper method/trick got seized ..... i walked through customs with 4 sheets of liver gaurd the brand that is illegal here in oz and a bottle of mylanta filled with about 80mls test e) had it in cargo side pocket of shorts and nothing !!!!!!!!!!! they didnt check it !!!! not even writing on tabs when placed in tray and 1 bloke looked at bottle (i popped lid off without breaking seal) and i just said mate thats the only thing from shitting myself here and now got thai belly he just dropped it and said crap yourself downthere lol i got it through !!!!!!!! also just take the metal lids if your vials that leaves u with a glass vial and rubber stopper no metal !!!!!! id ditch the suit and just blend in casually ..... declaring imo is a catch 22 situation declare all that other stuff u mentioned theyd be like whats missing here ??? gear !!! or declare and may lead them off thinking your honest .... risky .... if its legal here just post it to yourself u should recieve it ..... then just hide your gear vials tapping should be ok without metal tho !!!!! find a sterile glass container of sorts like a perfume bottle (but sterile) and just fill i twith gear chemist should have some .... then buy a $3 bottleof perfume and take all the stickers off it and place them on perfume (gear bottle) and put in your toiletries bag they wont search it , well i hope not my mate got his back this way a bit of work tho

oh yeah sydney is where its at !!!!!!!!!!!!

[ranging1]

ive been doing a lot of reading and asked an actual sniffer dog trainer, and dogs cannot smell through glass or airtight plastic, hence a t prop vial is safe, and dogs are trained to sniff drugs not test. So im pretty safe.

Random body searches? there is no way in hell they would pull a random person out to do a body search unless a dog sniffed them or something was xrayed in their baggage.

lol australia in the airport they randomly body search people repeatedly when they go through the metal scanners

they dont need a reason, when you go through the metal detectors theirs usully about 6-8 people who do random body searches on people

we have them on both international and domestic flights

if you dont believe me ask any aussie, theyll tell you

id say they usually search 1 in every 20 people that walk through those detectors, but they usually choose who they search, and they dont need a reason, they just hold a peice of paper up saying by law they are allowed to search you for no reason

welcome to the war against terrorism lol

[Mr.Rose]

I found thins whilst looking aound.

"A 35-year-old Frankston South man was stopped for questioning when he arrived on a flight from Bangkok on Wednesday.

While checking his bags, they discovered about 100 tablets of performance-enhancing drugs and an electric shock device disguised as a mobile phone.

They also found more than 1,200 vials and tablets of performance-enhancing drugs strapped to his legs underneath his tights.

Customs official Richard Janeczko said they are determined to prevent the smuggling of dangerous goods into Australia."

See thing is they only found him because had tablets in his bag and probarly looks suspicious. I could look casual as. With then strapped to my upper thigh, or dare i say if worst comes to worst...anal insertions (but the temp would prop kill the roid).

they are amps, so no metal, so no metal detector. But it only takes one frisk search to feel that they are there. As Ranging1 stated, i doubt they search 1 in 20, no offense but i see that as a waste of time, resources and well 99% they end up with nothing and embarrassment. I think they only search the people that look suspicious, nervous, sweating, etc.

yeh i got t3/t4 and nolva, viagra to declare. if i dont i could get in shit, if i do then they can be confiscated. But if i do, that gives them more time with me and more time to accidentally pump me and find the roids strapped to me. Hmmmmm. I dont know. lol

[in2shape]

I found thins whilst looking aound.

"A 35-year-old Frankston South man was stopped for questioning when he arrived on a flight from Bangkok on Wednesday.

While checking his bags, they discovered about 100 tablets of performance-enhancing drugs and an electric shock device disguised as a mobile phone.

They also found more than 1,200 vials and tablets of performance-enhancing drugs strapped to his legs underneath his tights.

Customs official Richard Janeczko said they are determined to prevent the smuggling of dangerous goods into Australia."

See thing is they only found him because had tablets in his bag and probarly looks suspicious. I could look casual as. With then strapped to my upper thigh, or dare i say if worst comes to worst...anal insertions (but the temp would prop kill the roid).

they are amps, so no metal, so no metal detector. But it only takes one frisk search to feel that they are there. As Ranging1 stated, i doubt they search 1 in 20, no offense but i see that as a waste of time, resources and well 99% they end up with nothing and embarrassment. I think they only search the people that look suspicious, nervous, sweating, etc.

yeh i got t3/t4 and nolva, viagra to declare. if i dont i could get in shit, if i do then they can be confiscated. But if i do, that gives them more time with me and more time to accidentally pump me and find the roids strapped to me. Hmmmmm. I dont know. lol

id say they do more than 1 in 20 its more like theyll pull u out if u look sus or 4 that matter u look too casual !!!! if u r gonna tape them id tape them to your nuts sack or between your sausage and your nuts they dont touch u there !!!!

as mentioned in previous post if the other stuff u r bringing back is legal just post it 2 yaself y raise unneccesary suspicions on u ???

the above story the dude did everything wrong he had stuff on him n his bag plus other illegal stuff stun gun etc dont declare shit , dont raise a red flag !!!!!!!!!

i got picked out of a que and i look innocent as gave me the read and b4 i could even hand it back and agree to it i had 2 dudes behind me .... be very careful about keeping it onyaself !!!! if its in your bag and they find it u can say i had a thai porter pack my bag ....when its taped to ya leg, oh howd that get there , um i dont think so ...

ive been to jail over here dude and u dont wana end up there 4 gear it is not worth it !!!!! better yet pm me and ill sort ya out lol jokes joks ...

u say if u do declare it could be confiscated y if its ok here ???

just did a search on government site , nolva is banned, all gear is banned , clen is banned but there is a loop hole and clomid allowed go figure ????
all of course without scripts

be very careful of the decision u make

enjoy the anal !!!!!!!!!!!

lol at least when ya locked up youve already tried it !!!!

[ranging1]

I found thins whilst looking aound.

"A 35-year-old Frankston South man was stopped for questioning when he arrived on a flight from Bangkok on Wednesday.

While checking his bags, they discovered about 100 tablets of performance-enhancing drugs and an electric shock device disguised as a mobile phone.

They also found more than 1,200 vials and tablets of performance-enhancing drugs strapped to his legs underneath his tights.

Customs official Richard Janeczko said they are determined to prevent the smuggling of dangerous goods into Australia."

See thing is they only found him because had tablets in his bag and probarly looks suspicious. I could look casual as. With then strapped to my upper thigh, or dare i say if worst comes to worst...anal insertions (but the temp would prop kill the roid).

they are amps, so no metal, so no metal detector. But it only takes one frisk search to feel that they are there. As Ranging1 stated, i doubt they search 1 in 20, no offense but i see that as a waste of time, resources and well 99% they end up with nothing and embarrassment. I think they only search the people that look suspicious, nervous, sweating, etc.

yeh i got t3/t4 and nolva, viagra to declare. if i dont i could get in shit, if i do then they can be confiscated. But if i do, that gives them more time with me and more time to accidentally pump me and find the roids strapped to me. Hmmmmm. I dont know. lol

LMFAO well anyways, good luck, i personaly think your most likely gonna get caught

dont perople watch the TV SHOW airport security

i just think its stupid, risking going to prison for over 5 years just becuase you wanna bring gear into australia

and then posting pics of your plans on a public forum

BEST LUCK

if you do end up getting through let us know

if you dont im sure ill see you on TV, airport security lol

[in2shape]

LMFAO well anyways, good luck, i personaly think your most likely gonna get caught

dont perople watch the TV SHOW airport security

i just think its stupid, risking going to prison for over 5 years just becuase you wanna bring gear into australia

and then posting pics of your plans on a public forum

BEST LUCK

if you do end up getting through let us know

if you dont im sure ill see you on TV, airport security lol

yup ^^^^^^ x 2

[Mr.Rose]

hahaha oyu got me all wrong,

i wasnt posting pics of what i will do, i was showing you guys how dumb some people are.

geeeeeeeeeeeeez

plus im not doing anything illigal,

[gonzo6183]

You guys are made... You realise authorities use these sites to find out the type of info you are posting here.