First Post on AR!

**YupYup** · 11-26-2006, 09:55 PM

Hello there everyone!

I've been browsing around a whole lot on this forum and decided to finally register.

Nice to meet everyone, let me introduce myself.

I'm 24, been lifting since I was 17. I started out at 125lbs, and weigh close to 180 now and am 5'10''.
I lift 4-5 days a week, about 1-1.5 hours per session and lift one muscle group a day.

Here's a break down:
Sunday: Chest, 265 on flat, 235 on incline (I do mid/lower one week, and upper chest alternating week)
Monday: Back, 300 dead lift(Dead lifts, Lat pull-downs, rows, so forth so forth)
Tuesday: Off-Day
Wednesday: Shoulders
Thursday: Legs, 270ish on squat (I have bad knees, that's my excuse)
Friday: Bis/Tris
Saturday: Off-Day

As far as supplements and diet.
Creatine Mono (10g/daily)
Fish Oil (5-6g/daily)
Protein from shakes (200g/daily)
Glucosamine Chondroitin (2g/daily)
Arginine (3-4 g on work out days)
Fast Twitch/ NO Xplode (on work out days when I need a boost)
I, of course, maintain a healthy, clean, high protein diet.

Now for the steroids talk.
I've been beating around the bush, thinking whether or not I should just try tribulus, or ZMA as a natural test booster. But after doing some research I have decided to get on my first cycle.

It'll consist of just Testosterone Ethanate and Clomid. I chose test E b/c after doing my research it's a long acting test and it being my first cycle I thought I'd want that. Also I didn't want to run this first cycle with anything else just to see what kind of gains/side effects/gyno I'd feel. I'll run a 10 week cycle running 500mg/week, 250mg/2X a week. Then two weeks after my last injection, I'll get on Clomid until I run out of it.

I am not expecting INSANE gains, just some gains to get me through this plateau. Put on maybe 15lbs, and lose about 5 from water retention after.

What do you guys think? Also should I get off creatine as soon I my first injection? or should I wait 3-4 weeks until the effects of test kick in?

Sorry for the LONG ASS POST, but I thought I should properly introduce myself to everyone here.

Thanks!

**KNOWNasJOE** · 11-26-2006, 10:03 PM

Stay on the creatine if you would like. I dont like to run it though. You can put it into your PCT. What made you want to go with Clomid? If you have bad joints ( I do as well ) then take primaforce (I think) elastamine. It is really cheap and starts working almost immediately. I went from aching days after squats to only feeling muscle soreness. I also went from squating 365, which was easy it just killed my knees, to squating 455, which was much more of a struggle and tested me, in about 2 weeks. Anyways, sorry I went off :P

The test is good and its a great idea that you want a simple first cycle. Most people want to throw in tons of shit but then you never really know whats doing what. I know some of the experienced members will come in and throw down some great advice. GL Bro.

**Tesla** · 11-26-2006, 10:03 PM

10G of creatine is a lot. I don't think you need to drop it in your cycle but I'm not sure if 10G is necessary.

**Tesla** · 11-26-2006, 10:04 PM

I don't think clomid would be my first choice. ...It can really mess with your mind. ...might want to think on that one some more.

***G-1000*** · 11-26-2006, 10:06 PM

I think you have done you research. For your first the test -e at 500mg week is best. You will have some very nice gains with that. You should think about running an anti-e or at the lest have it on hand just incare.

**YupYup** · 11-26-2006, 10:08 PM

I decided on Clomid b/c it helps your body produce its own test very quickly. Also the friend that I'm getting my gear from recommended it to me, being that this was what he uses for his PCT.

**YupYup** · 11-26-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Gsxxr

I think you have done you research. For your first the test -e at 500mg week is best. You will have some very nice gains with that. You should think about running an anti-e or at the lest have it on hand just incare.

I was thinking I should get some JUST IN CASE, but my buddy was saying that I should be okay without it. If I do decide to get it I'm thinking about getting some Tamox.

**YupYup** · 11-26-2006, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by KNOWNasJOE

Stay on the creatine if you would like. I dont like to run it though. You can put it into your PCT. What made you want to go with Clomid? If you have bad joints ( I do as well ) then take primaforce (I think) elastamine. It is really cheap and starts working almost immediately. I went from aching days after squats to only feeling muscle soreness. I also went from squating 365, which was easy it just killed my knees, to squating 455, which was much more of a struggle and tested me, in about 2 weeks. Anyways, sorry I went off :P

The test is good and its a great idea that you want a simple first cycle. Most people want to throw in tons of shit but then you never really know whats doing what. I know some of the experienced members will come in and throw down some great advice. GL Bro.

Thanks Joe!

Yea, I want to start simple and keep it simple as I can.

**SS1476** · 11-26-2006, 10:21 PM

Looks like someone did some homework,welcome

Test only for your 1st,you cant go wrong.

IMO...have everything on hand,you never
know when you'll need,and its there if u do.

**GHO5T** · 11-26-2006, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by YupYup

Hello there everyone!

I've been browsing around a whole lot on this forum and decided to finally register.

Nice to meet everyone, let me introduce myself.

I'm 24, been lifting since I was 17. I started out at 125lbs, and weigh close to 180 now and am 5'10''.
I lift 4-5 days a week, about 1-1.5 hours per session and lift one muscle group a day.

Here's a break down:
Sunday: Chest, 265 on flat, 235 on incline (I do mid/lower one week, and upper chest alternating week)
Monday: Back, 300 dead lift(Dead lifts, Lat pull-downs, rows, so forth so forth)
Tuesday: Off-Day
Wednesday: Shoulders
Thursday: Legs, 270ish on squat (I have bad knees, that's my excuse)
Friday: Bis/Tris
Saturday: Off-Day

As far as supplements and diet.
Creatine Mono (10g/daily)
Fish Oil (5-6g/daily)
Protein from shakes (200g/daily)
Glucosamine Chondroitin (2g/daily)
Arginine (3-4 g on work out days)
Fast Twitch/ NO Xplode (on work out days when I need a boost)
I, of course, maintain a healthy, clean, high protein diet.

Now for the steroids talk.
I've been beating around the bush, thinking whether or not I should just try tribulus, or ZMA as a natural test booster. But after doing some research I have decided to get on my first cycle.

It'll consist of just Testosterone Ethanate and Clomid. I chose test E b/c after doing my research it's a long acting test and it being my first cycle I thought I'd want that. Also I didn't want to run this first cycle with anything else just to see what kind of gains/side effects/gyno I'd feel. I'll run a 10 week cycle running 500mg/week, 250mg/2X a week. Then two weeks after my last injection, I'll get on Clomid until I run out of it.

I am not expecting INSANE gains, just some gains to get me through this plateau. Put on maybe 15lbs, and lose about 5 from water retention after.

What do you guys think? Also should I get off creatine as soon I my first injection? or should I wait 3-4 weeks until the effects of test kick in?

Sorry for the LONG ASS POST, but I thought I should properly introduce myself to everyone here.

Thanks!

might want to keep some anti e on hand just in case, but everything else looks good bro

best of luck to you keep us posted on your progress bro

**RYNO** · 11-26-2006, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tesla

I don't think clomid would be my first choice. ...It can really mess with your mind. ...might want to think on that one some more.

Ditto. I would ditch the clomid and use nolva for PCT. Clomid can have some gnarley sides, at least in my experience.

**YupYup** · 11-26-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by RYNO

Ditto. I would ditch the clomid and use nolva for PCT. Clomid can have some gnarley sides, at least in my experience.

Ok, so I have relayed my concerns about Clomid to my source, but he has already shipped the gear. But he assures me that if I take it before going to bed it will help with the sides (feeling emotional and "feeling like a bitch" (his exact words)). So you guys think it's worth it for me to order some Tomex for my pct?

**RYNO** · 11-26-2006, 11:48 PM

I would get tamox. It's cheap in liquid form and may save you from some nasty sides. Oh BTW, taking the clomid before bed will do nothing to keep you from "feeling like a bitch." It has a half-life of several days.

**Booz** · 11-27-2006, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by YupYup

I was thinking I should get some JUST IN CASE, but my buddy was saying that I should be okay without it. If I do decide to get it I'm thinking about getting some Tamox.

ALWAYS have an anti-e on hand i dont care what your mate says,wat is ok for him may be completely different for you,
get something before you start anything mate,better to be safe than sorry..............

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-27-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by YupYup

Ok, so I have relayed my concerns about Clomid to my source, but he has already shipped the gear. But he assures me that if I take it before going to bed it will help with the sides (feeling emotional and "feeling like a bitch" (his exact words)). So you guys think it's worth it for me to order some Tomex for my pct?

Tamoxifen (nolvadex ) is good to have on hand anyway, just incase. I have used nolva with clomid for pct and that combo has always worked well for me.

**Giants11** · 11-27-2006, 12:31 PM

Just a quick word on your diet.

200g of Protein from shakes is awful. I could only see 200g from shakes being resonable if you were consuming somewhere between 500-600g daily. Which for your size would be far too much.

**YupYup** · 11-27-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is good to have on hand anyway, just incase. I have used nolva with clomid for pct and that combo has always worked well for me.

I'm convinced. I'll go ahead and order Nolvadex just in case I start to see gyno. If I don't see any gyno during the cycle I will use it with clomid as my PCT.

Thanks bro

**YupYup** · 11-27-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Giants11

Just a quick word on your diet.

200g of Protein from shakes is awful. I could only see 200g from shakes being resonable if you were consuming somewhere between 500-600g daily. Which for your size would be far too much.

Yea, I agree 500 is WAY too much for my weight.

I take a serving (Whey, two scoops, 48g) soon as I wake up.
Another serving (Whey, two scoops, 48g) few hours after lunch.
Another serving (Whey, two scoops, 48g) after lifting, I lift at night.
Another serving (muscle milk, two scoops 35g) right before going to bed
Throughout the day I probably have about 100-130g of protein from food.
Grand total estimate of around 300g, and I weigh about 180

Still too much?

**Giants11** · 11-27-2006, 03:38 PM

Not too much, just too much from shakes IMO.

You should try and get more whole food proteins, it will only help you.

**shrpskn** · 11-27-2006, 07:49 PM

Welcome to AR...YupYup.

**rock75** · 11-27-2006, 10:44 PM

Yup Yup, welcome bro. Not everyone will react the same to clomid, i've never experienced the emotional sides that some bro's on here have, so if you have it I would use it because it does do as you state and I would definitly get some anti-e's and have them on hand in case you need them. good luck bro

**YupYup** · 11-27-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Welcome to AR...YupYup.

Originally Posted by rock75

Yup Yup, welcome bro. Not everyone will react the same to clomid, i've never experienced the emotional sides that some bro's on here have, so if you have it I would use it because it does do as you state and I would definitly get some anti-e's and have them on hand in case you need them. good luck bro
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Thanks fellas. I def. got on top of that anti-E, and ordered myself some Nolva. I'll keep everyone updated on how my first cycle goes.