**** scamming **

**Logan13** · 12-10-2006, 03:24 AM

scamming

**Kale** · 12-10-2006, 03:30 AM

Interesting to see what the great Anthony Roberts has to say about this, but unfortunately this thread will be deleted as have all the others that have brought that source into question

**SnaX** · 12-10-2006, 03:33 AM

eh?

**Logan13** · 12-10-2006, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Interesting to see what the great Anthony Roberts has to say about this, but unfortunately this thread will be deleted as have all the others that have brought that source into question

Is Hooker involved with "A" somehow? If it would have come from someone else, I wouldn't think much of it. But my source of info. on this is very good! Why do you think that they are so quick to delete this type of info? Isn't that one of the reasons that this board is around, to protect it members?

**Kale** · 12-10-2006, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

Is Hooker involved with "A" somehow? If it would have come from someone else, I wouldn't think much of it. But my source of info. on this is very good! Why do you think that they are so quick to delete this type of info? Isn't that one of the reasons that this board is around, to protect it members?

Discussing this here will probably get you and me banned, so PM me your email address and I will be happy to discuss it with you there

**x_moe** · 12-10-2006, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

This comes from a very reputible source, as well as a large international dealer of **. Any questions, IM me. I'm sure that more than a few on here are familiar with ****..........

A l i n from ********, ********* and**************** has been thrown off the **Edit** approved vendor list because he is a scammer. **** will attempt to discredit **Edit** in any way he can with malicious lies. He has stolen **Edit** stock when he can, has tried to steal their logo. He has been thrown off their approved distributors list for selling counterfeit products and he is ratting on other ** suppliers and some of his customers. to view the rest of the story log in to **Edit**

there is around 10 scammers that i know that have their address as an approved supplier on the **Edit** site

**drak909** · 12-10-2006, 04:46 AM

you talking about a website mate?

**FearlessFighter** · 12-10-2006, 05:02 AM

I was going to post this yesterday but didn't want to start a new thread. I tried to locate the thread which Roberts praised this source and vouced for it, etc,. But I couldn't find it...

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 05:28 AM

Read my Blog.

**Logan13** · 12-10-2006, 05:30 AM

I am sure that **Edit** will post in here to refute this, as well he should. There seems to be alot of drama going on over british dragon rights and such. This is all over the AAS/BB community right now, and there seems to be shit flying in both directions. Until it blows over and is clear, I am going to delete my above posts. If anyone has any questions, IM me.

**Logan13** · 12-10-2006, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

My first comment will be that it's against the rules to call anyone out as a scammer here. My second comment is that **** owns ******* ****** (PM BMF2 or System_Admin, and I believe they will confirm this...unfortunately, I doubt any other staff-people here are really in the loop enough to know what's going on). My third and final comment is that this is ancient news (about **** owning the company in question). The person calling him out on being a scammer is full of shit.

I posted about **** owning the company (and I posted their ownership papers) in my Blog and elsewhere. *yawn*

Ancient History. He's owned the company for ages now...I hinted at this several times when I said "I'm sure he isn't producing counterfeits...in fact, it's IMPOSSIBLE for him to produce counterfeits...."

Did not see you on here. Listen, I trust the sources of my info and I am sure that you trust yours. For that reason, I have deleted my original post until it is hashed out. It seems that we have 2 large players battling it out right now. I trust that you would definitely not support a scammer if scamming is proven.......
-Logan13

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

Did not see you on here. Listen, I trust the sources of my info and I am sure that you trust yours. For that reason, I have deleted my original post until it is hashed out. It seems that we have 2 large players battling it out right now. I trust that you would definitely not support a scammer if scamming is proven.......
-Logan13

I'm sure you trust your source of information, but if it isn't ******* or ****** (the founders of the company) or **** (current majority owner), then it's second hand information.

In any case, since we aren't allowed to post the name of the company in question and aren't allowed to post sources either, it's kind of an excersize in futility to even talk about it here. The drama is being played out in several other forums around the 'net...it's very unfortunate, and mostly is a bunch of sources arguing. I think, honestly, it's the end of the company.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

I am sure that **Edit** will post in here to refute this, as well he should. There seems to be alot of drama going on over british dragon rights and such. This is all over the AAS/BB community right now, and there seems to be shit flying in both directions. Until it blows over and is clear, I am going to delete my above posts. If anyone has any questions, IM me.

I wouldn't bother refuting any of this on steroid .com if I were him. We're not allowed to name sources, we can't post the name of the company in question, and it's against the rules to call ANYONE a scammer (we no longer have a scammers list for that reason).

It's pointless to really discuss it here, when the rules are such.

**RobbieG** · 12-10-2006, 07:03 AM

How.. pathetic.

I have received this letter, didn´t know I gave up my email to that source..

btw, it´s really old school marketing tactics.

**shrpskn** · 12-10-2006, 07:06 AM

I don't know,...I don't care really. I've been hearing shady B.S. about this a1in fella for years now, hence the reason I've never considered doing business with him.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 12-10-2006, 07:52 AM

another thread about this was closed yesterday..I assume this one will also..HOWEVER- I think that its up to someone here to let the board members know the truth regarding this source--after all, It is on the board suppliers list. How does closing these threads fix or resolve anything??

anthony--read the blog..that makes sense now that I see whats up. thanks for the insight.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

anthony--read the blog..that makes sense now that I see whats up. thanks for the insight.

Sometime tonight I'll update my blog with 100% of the information I have received from both sides of the story. I will not allow either side to know what the other's claims are beforehand, and I'll present it exactly as the founder of the company tells his side, vs/ the present majority owner.

I'm not going to entertain third party input in my blog, however. In other words, if someone is saying something about the situation, and they do not and have not ever owned a piece of******* ******, and are simply a mod/vet/admin or remailer/source then I'm not going to entertain their thoughts on the matter.

The information I present will be from both sides involved, and no third parties at all. Also, this information is going to be a running update from what I've heard from both parties over the last several months.

This is not, as is being speculated in vet forums and mod forums everywhere, a new development, but rather one that has been going on for half a year or more. I knew about it since the start, and I'll be presenting everything I know, and have known, since the outset....months ago.

I'm doing it in my Blog, and not on any websites/forums because I don't really want peanut-gallery comments and such, from people who are (*as I am) friends with BOTH SIDES IN THE DISPUTE, regarding ownership of the company. In addition, I don't need my comments censored, and/or deleted...and in my own space, on my own Blog, I can insure that doesn't happen.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 12-10-2006, 08:32 AM

That would be great AND appreciated by many here...as I said before , we need a place where we can judge for ourselves & read the facts & maybe even get to the bottom of the situation without it being deleted or against rules of the board(which I understand)

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 08:36 AM

I'll contact each side one last time. I'm friends with both sides in the matter, and think they deserve at least that much. I won't, however, let either side know what the other has said until I post it in my blog.

Everyone (not just the cool-guys with colored names) can judge for themselves at that point, and everyone will have access to the same information. And hopefully everyone will decide for themselves (without being influenced by mods/admins/sources) what has happened. Again, the only points of view I'll present will be those from within the company, and no heresay, and no bullshit.

BG · 12-10-2006, 08:40 AM

Crazy stuff.

BG · 12-10-2006, 08:40 AM

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-10-2006, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

PM if you like , I have both sides of the story.

I believe there is more to this than you know.

What I'm going to present is the owners story, as well as that of the founders. I'm reasonbly sure that you don't know either of them. Lets endeavor to only present first hand information, not information from competing sources, with vested buisness interests.

Also, if you know that **** owns ******* ******, isn't it kind of stupid for ****** to be saying he's producing counterfeits? It's impossible for the owner of the company to counterfeit his own products, right?

Also, I have e-mails (internal memos) from within ******* ******, which prove (I believe) the falsehood of the **Edit** and **Edit** claims. Again, just give me some time to organize this into a cohesive/cogent timeline, and I'll get it out on my blog for everyone to see.

If I don't organize all of this, it'll read like a Tarantino movie, with shit going on at different non-linear points...

BG · 12-10-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

I believe there is more to this than you know.

What I'm going to present is the owners story, as well as that of the founders. I'm reasonbly sure that you don't know either of them. Lets endeavor to only present first hand information, not information from competing sources, with vested buisness interests.

Also, if you know that **** owns ******* ******, isn't it kind of stupid for ****** to be saying he's producing counterfeits? It's impossible for the owner of the company to counterfeit his own products, right?

Also, I have e-mails (internal memos) from within ******* ******, which prove (I believe) the falsehood of the **Edit** and **Edit** claims. Again, just give me some time to organize this into a cohesive/cogent timeline, and I'll get it out on my blog for everyone to see.

If I don't organize all of this, it'll read like a Tarantino movie, with shit going on at different non-linear points...

I was wondering what was up with the mud slinging as of recent between the above mentioned, shits going to get deep. Also I was saying I had both sides of the story, not the truth.

**FearlessFighter** · 12-10-2006, 09:11 AM

My God. **** WAS right. I just checked out a thread on Professionalmuscle which shed much light on the issue at hand!

Sorry for doubting you, Roberts.