********** - What is the Verdict.

[zaneisgreat]

Hi, im looking at buying gear from a popular source that comes in a satchet form @5ml/satchet. Im guessing you guys probably know what satchets im talking about.

I've heard a lot of positive input about these but im getting mixed information on whether or not this gear is very sterile or in need of filtering. The popular/trusted site that im looking at claims that the oils are sterile and good to go but i still see people insisting that they need to be filtered.

whats your take on this? Feel free to add anything about your experience or information on satchets.

[zaneisgreat]

do i need to edit the title of my first thread?

[Hephens]

Yea i get this stuff from a very high top ugl/comapany. Stuff is great overdosed and some overfilled to 5.5ml to 6ml

[frank12391]

I ordered and used a lot of that gear. Always got 5.5ml out of each sachet. Never filtered but always washed the sachets with antibacterial and swabed the outside before pricking and drawing out the juice. EQ was painless, test cyp, slight corking in glute, Supertest corks a little because of the prop, same with the sus but no more than any other gear that I'v used. Never got an infection, swelling. Some people get abcesses because they forget to swab the outside of the packs which can contaminate the gear, thats my explanation for the complaints

[frank12391]

PS: I live in Australia. We have the toughest customs in the world, they pride themselves on that. It's the only overseas gear that I can get through customs without a problem. On one occassion they even opened the package and I still got my stuff. They didn't suspect a thing.

[OldUncle]

My favorite brand, for security and quality reasons.

[Hephens]

there bloody tuff alright i live in Australia aswell and got a order siezed awhile back from another src and they have been watching me to see if i have been sending any money oversease so i cant get it myself they watch everything i do. butsome1 ellse can for me.

[MrMe]

Ive used it and like it. Never filtered and never had a problem

[zaneisgreat]

sounds good! thanks very much for the information so far.

[desiR]

i jus got mine in the mail like 3 weeks ago..n they're realy gud.. i got supertest.. my glutes is sore like crazy.....

[SVTMuscle*]

Hmm I have a feeling I know where yall are getting it from, I was looking at them today, they seem cool..... just expensive!

[Pete789]

Hmmm i thought they were well priced........Highly advised for the down under user. U can trust them m8.
Pete

[SVTMuscle*]

ohhhhhh I thought they meant, $xx for a single 250ml shot not 5mL

[RobbieG]

PS: I live in Australia. We have the toughest customs in the world, they pride themselves on that. It's the only overseas gear that I can get through customs without a problem. On one occassion they even opened the package and I still got my stuff. They didn't suspect a thing.

Wrang!

[king6]

I have only seen one supplier of them, and they look kind of shady to me.

[samjams]

Just out of curiosity, Before you draw the oil out, do you have to add air to pressurize??? Or does it draw easily???

[frank2738]

hunt for the posts about sachets. people have written down just how they extracted it and stuff. probably within the last 2 months.

[RobbieG]

ohhhhhh I thought they meant, $xx for a single 250ml shot not 5mL

that´s a good one

[zaneisgreat]

Just out of curiosity, Before you draw the oil out, do you have to add air to pressurize??? Or does it draw easily???

I have no direct experience with this but from what i read, since it is not an air tight container like a sealed vial, injecting air into the satchet does not work. What people have been doing is just using large gauge needles tips to easily extract the gear. THen they twist off the thick needles and slap a thin one on that is suitable for injection.

[zaneisgreat]

Hmm I have a feeling I know where yall are getting it from, I was looking at them today, they seem cool..... just expensive!

If i went satchets for my last cycle, it would have litterally cut my expenses in HALF (actually im guessing even less than half).

not to mention their shipping success rate, frequent testing to be overdosed and even overfilled by up to 1ml!

they sound like a dream come true to me.

[PumpMasta]

Well the purpose of sachets is due to them coming from overseas. But it is far easier to just use a local supplier and avoid the whole hassle and receive products in vials, imo anyways. Also I had a friend try these sachets and he got an infection in his delt. Not sure it was from the product but he has run 4 cycles and never had a problem until he tried these things.

[up2itt2003]

Benn down that road and I WILL go again.

Be sure to filter it or else!

[PROTEINSHAKE]

Hmm I have a feeling I know where yall are getting it from, I was looking at them today, they seem cool..... just expensive!

quality stuff IMO & NOT expensive..

[kynetguy]

The popular/trusted site that im looking at claims that the oils are sterile and good to go but i still see people insisting that they need to be filtered.

whats your take on this? Feel free to add anything about your experience or information on satchets.

Filtering does NOTHING to increase sterility. The filtering ensures that there is no particulate matter in the oil. Think of it as an oil filter in your car. It just takes out chunks.

[frank12391]

Be sure to wash and then swab them.

[pigrond]

i like the prices

[GHO5T]

If i went satchets for my last cycle, it would have litterally cut my expenses in HALF (actually im guessing even less than half).

not to mention their shipping success rate, frequent testing to be overdosed and even overfilled by up to 1ml!

they sound like a dream come true to me.

If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is, JMO.

[spywizard]

i'd draw it all into a larger 20ml syringe,

get a sterile vial

filter it through a .02 filter,

and you will be good to go in the future..

but hey, that's just me..

i typically refilter all my stuff anyway..

i'm anal like that.. filters are cheap... sterile sealed multi dose vial.. cheap..

abcess, and surgery.. expensive..

[evil pepsi]

the gear is clean. 100% clean. i can verify this. anyone needing proof can pm me and i will tell you how to test it.
its cheaper than any domestic source, and a lot safer.
frank and i have went head to head about extraction methods, but, both work, and will be safe, if you follow protocol...

[spywizard]

the gear is clean. 100% clean. i can verify this. anyone needing proof can pm me and i will tell you how to test it.
its cheaper than any domestic source, and a lot safer.
frank and i have went head to head about extraction methods, but, both work, and will be safe, if you follow protocol...

wow, at home bacterial and viaral testing?? i'd love to hear more..

[evil pepsi]

wow, at home bacterial and viaral testing?? i'd love to hear more..

its not actually at-home stuff, but, if you know what you are doing, and where to get the stuff, you can do it at home. its so simple that kids in high school can do it...

[Halfcenturian]

The sachets are a very ******y way to ship. I just don't trust the supplier anymore. Even if he gave me a Gallin for free.

[evil pepsi]

why do you not trust him? its clean stuff...

[Kale]

why do you not trust him? its clean stuff...

There have been a few people on here who have said it isnt. What exactly is your relationship to the source ?

[samcam]

I am on my second cycle of **Edited: Narkissos** Test E and have had excellent results. It is a little painful at first but other than that excellent, I'm just not really sure why it gets such A negative rep? Maybe it has to do with the supplier whom I have never had a problem with....then again I avoid politics and go with what works.

[grimmace]

The sachets are a very stealthy way to ship. I just don't trust the supplier anymore. Even if he gave me a Gallin for free.

This supplier is one of the best. I dont think this site and other good sites would promote him if he wasnt any good.

[Halfcenturian]

If your source beg**Edited: Narkissos** , there has been a major "falling out". Many people have been scammed. If it's someone else, nevermind.
Plus I don't think the bunk gear involved sachets. Not sure.
Just reporting so you can check it out before you buy.

[Kale]

If your source **Edited: Narkissos** , there has been a major "falling out". Many people have been scammed. If it's someone else, nevermind.
Plus I don't think the bunk gear involved sachets. Not sure.
Just reporting so you can check it out before you buy.

No doubt he does !!!

[abstrack]

Did this guy spam the board or something? there has been a lot of threads in regards to 3-5ml sachets

[vermin]

So far, all of my sachets have tested well and delivery has been superb. Email communication great, too.

Yes, you should filter. And yes, filters contribute substantially to removal of organisms that you may introduce during the transfer procedure: http://www.whatman.com/repository/do...t_Overview.pdf