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    My 8 week winny in about 1 week

    Hey guys, first of all great forum! There is so much great knowledge here.
    Anyway the thing is, there has been alot of heart "conditions" in my family. Such as early deaths due smoking and heart failure. And Borned with a hole in my heart ( spelling ). So the question is, does this mean i should stay away from winny or should this not has any function at all? I plan to take bloodsample both before and durring the cycle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Minisin
    Hey guys, first of all great forum! There is so much great knowledge here.
    Anyway the thing is, there has been alot of heart "conditions" in my family. Such as early deaths due smoking and heart failure. And Borned with a hole in my heart ( spelling ). So the question is, does this mean i should stay away from winny or should this not has any function at all? I plan to take bloodsample both before and durring the cycle.


    Thanks for any answers
    First off this is a question you need to ask a Doctor, not some guys on a web site.

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    I have been training for 1 1/2 year now. I will hear around if i can get primobolan instead
    Secondly you are not even close to being ready fro steroid use . Try 4-5 years of hard natural trainig and also having some knowledge of steroids and how to use them. You really need to read and workout....forget steroids for now.

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    Im not sure how easy it would be to tell my doctor if i can use Winstrol or not. Since the product is illegal and so. As for my training i have not trained too many years no but i feel im experienced enough. I have been bulking the last half year ( clean ) with great improvement. And now im interested in doing this winstrol cycle while deffing to keep my muscle mass and "tighten" up. And well about steroid knowledge, what can i say.. i have read all i could find on norwegian and english steroid pages along with forums. ANd i suppose to get the practical experience i have to start somewhere and actually try it.

    But yeah you are probably right, i should hear with my doctor about my heart condition. Thanks for the feedback though

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    In all your reading, what makes you want to use a winny only cycle? It is not a wise choice to do it alone.

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    Well i did consider to use deca aswell, since it has a good effect on the body when doing winnies ( not sure how to spell it but im sure you know what i mean ) But that would also make me alittlebit bigger? And besides i didn't want my first cycle to be too big.

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    Are you not worried about your HPTA being shut down with NO other Test being supplied to your system??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minisin
    Hey guys, first of all great forum! There is so much great knowledge here.
    Anyway the thing is, there has been alot of heart "conditions" in my family. Such as early deaths due smoking and heart failure. And Borned with a hole in my heart ( spelling ). So the question is, does this mean i should stay away from winny or should this not has any function at all? I plan to take bloodsample both before and durring the cycle.


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    Minisin, I am glad you came here looking for answers. Please feel free to ask whatever you want and dont let anyone flame you for doing so.

    I would first explore your heart condition further and really try to find out what the issues are and what weaknesses, if any, it has. That should give you a better understanding of your limits.

    Secondly, dont worry about what kind of gear to use right now. Instead focus your questions and research on developing a base understanding of all aas' and what beginner guys do for cycles and what cycles works the best for your goals.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks Johny i'm trying my best here Ive had some good results the last half year even without any supplement at all but after alot of reading and thoughts i found out that this is something i might want to do.

    SMAN: I feel i should get worried but with some lack of understanding i'm not 100% sure what will happend with my HPTA being shut down and not haveing any other test into my system. I would love if you could elaborate it abit further. I have also decided to see my doctor and talk about what i want do so and how this might affect me with my condition. As far as i know im in a top shape but there has been some conditions before in my family that scares me alittle. I also had some set back doing ripped fuel for a while but that could have been randomly.

    Again thanks for all the feedback guys, great forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minisin
    Thanks Johny i'm trying my best here Ive had some good results the last half year even without any supplement at all but after alot of reading and thoughts i found out that this is something i might want to do.

    SMAN: I feel i should get worried but with some lack of understanding i'm not 100% sure what will happend with my HPTA being shut down and not haveing any other test into my system. I would love if you could elaborate it abit further. I have also decided to see my doctor and talk about what i want do so and how this might affect me with my condition. As far as i know im in a top shape but there has been some conditions before in my family that scares me alittle. I also had some set back doing ripped fuel for a while but that could have been randomly.
    Again thanks for all the feedback guys, great forum!
    What?? Like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minisin
    Thanks Johny i'm trying my best here Ive had some good results the last half year even without any supplement at all but after alot of reading and thoughts i found out that this is something i might want to do.

    SMAN: I feel i should get worried but with some lack of understanding i'm not 100% sure what will happend with my HPTA being shut down and not haveing any other test into my system. I would love if you could elaborate it abit further. I have also decided to see my doctor and talk about what i want do so and how this might affect me with my condition. As far as i know im in a top shape but there has been some conditions before in my family that scares me alittle. I also had some set back doing ripped fuel for a while but that could have been randomly.

    Again thanks for all the feedback guys, great forum!

    Well here is where your research needs to come in. You need to spend the time while you wait for your doctor's evaluation of your heart, and learn everything you can about AAS before ever putting anything in your body.

    Basically most compounds will shut down your HPTA, that means that your body will stop its natural production of Testosterone since you are adding much more AAS than the body produces . This can cause many side effects some of which are your testes will shrink from being shut down and your sex drive may be lost.

    That is why most like to make sure to replace this test with a form of Injectable test to make up for what is being shut down and to keep your sex drive going during a cycle.

    Then you need to understand PCT (post cycle therapy ) this is the most important part of any AAS cycle as it is what will help you solidify your gains and get your natural production back to normal levels again.

    You got lots of reading to do, enjoy !!

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    Thanks SMAN and i will
    I get back to you if i got some specific questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    What?? Like what?
    Well the doctor said my blood got too thick due when taking ripped fuel. He said this is something that is very rare and not dangerous at all for most people but for me it was. But everything worked out fine, i got scared when i was at the ER ( spelling, umm the places at hospital for people that needs medical attension asap ) so after that i stopped taking ripped fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minisin
    Well the doctor said my blood got too thick due when taking ripped fuel. He said this is something that is very rare and not dangerous at all for most people but for me it was. But everything worked out fine, i got scared when i was at the ER ( spelling, umm the places at hospital for people that needs medical attension asap ) so after that i stopped taking ripped fuel.
    Bro, Im no doctor, but Id be extremely cautious about using any gear. In fact, Id just do everything natty for life. With a good diet, training, and rest you can acheive very good results in a few short years.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    Bro, Im no doctor, but Id be extremely cautious about using any gear. In fact, Id just do everything natty for life. With a good diet, training, and rest you can acheive very good results in a few short years.

    Good luck.
    thats good advice bro you only get one heart.

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