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    Having Problems after being off AAS or a year....

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    I have done 3 cycles including compounds such as Test E, Deca , and Tren A and have been off AAS for a Year. After my last cycle of:
    Test E 500mg 1-12/wk and Tren A 50mg ed 2-9/wk,
    do to my lack of organization and not getting gear b4 I started the cycle I was only able to do a week of nolva and clomid for PCT. I broke out all over my chest and it is now totally subsided with light scaring. I also recieved a light case of gyno which has made me choose not to do another cycle yet. The gyno was the size of a pea behind me nipple and I used letro to get rid of it. There is still a very small miniscule spot, but there is also a spot which is very small that I am unsure of, which is on the outside of my pec......???? (Im not sure what that means though, as gyno is usually behind the nipple in all the cases I have heard about.) What should I do about this? Another question has to do with sex drive and ed. My sex drive isnt nearly what it was before or on the cycle and I experience ed some times probably do to the letro and lack of PCT. I know this is do to my body not producing enough natural test also. I want to know if it would be beneficial for me to take just like nolvadex for 3 weeks to increase my natural test production to subside these problems? Any help would be great guys, thankyou!
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    I was about to try myogenx, it is suposed to increase natty test levels

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    Take tongkat ali (longjack) to boost natty test levels.

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    First off I would get a blood test and see where your Test and Estrogen levels are at. You can make a more informed decision about what to do after that

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    I totally agree with Kale do a blood test and then go from there.

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    good advise.. BW is the best way to go, if u dont do that u are just speculating.. BUT I think this is a more common problem that many like to think... but to my understanding most ppl recover pretty well (eventually - some take even longer than u).

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    If you suffered from libido and ed problems while you were using letro, I believe that would be considered normal. How long have you been off everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&FGuy
    Age:23
    190lbs.
    6'1

    I have done 3 cycles including compounds such as Test E, Deca , and Tren A and have been off AAS for a Year. After my last cycle of:
    Test E 500mg 1-12/wk and Tren A 50mg ed 2-9/wk,
    do to my lack of organization and not getting gear b4 I started the cycle I was only able to do a week of nolva and clomid for PCT. I broke out all over my chest and it is now totally subsided with light scaring. I also recieved a light case of gyno which has made me choose not to do another cycle yet. The gyno was the size of a pea behind me nipple and I used letro to get rid of it. There is still a very small miniscule spot, but there is also a spot which is very small that I am unsure of, which is on the outside of my pec......???? (Im not sure what that means though, as gyno is usually behind the nipple in all the cases I have heard about.) What should I do about this? Another question has to do with sex drive and ed. My sex drive isnt nearly what it was before or on the cycle and I experience ed some times probably do to the letro and lack of PCT. I know this is do to my body not producing enough natural test also. I want to know if it would be beneficial for me to take just like nolvadex for 3 weeks to increase my natural test production to subside these problems? Any help would be great guys, thankyou!
    This is a prime example of what can occur when one doesnt take all the necessary precautions, and have everything ready, researched, and on point.

    AAS isnt something to take lightly, everything from the start of the cycle to PCT must be researched, and all necessary compounds must be purchased and ready to go for the full duration of the cycle.

    Anyways, like Kale and other bro mentioned, get BW done, and see where everything falls, and go from there.

    best of luck to you

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    Ill parrot the BW for sure... but all i can say is that no matter what, it takes TIME for you body to re balance after AAS and PCT use, especially heavy. More than a year for me to feel a strong, natural sex drive. True hormonal equilibrium does NOT come right after a PCT run.. but PCT gets ya movin in the right direction more quickly... Your test sounds a tad low, it happened to me too even after good PCT habits... but hey, at least i didnt waste tons of money chasing ladies around with a hard on! I chilled LOL....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    First off I would get a blood test and see where your Test and Estrogen levels are at. You can make a more informed decision about what to do after that
    +1 this is the only way to see whats going on.

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    I did get BW done 3 months after my last cycle and have been off for 12 months. My blood work is as follows:
    I got a full blood panel and everything is with in range with my Testosterone total being 377 and I couldnt get my free test levels checked.

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    i had very similar problems to u. i ran dbol and test for a while and towards the end of my cycle when i wasnt seeing the results i wanted, i really started increasing the dosages and i could feel a lil pea right under my nipple. its not nothing that u can actually see when ur shirts off "like that dude got gyno", but u can tell its about to start forming if u keep it up; ur getting too much estrogen in ur body. i've taken some tamox for about 2 months now and it just went away completely. as far as the ED problem, i didnt wanna have sex at all when i got off. i mean u could put paris hilton on my dick and it wouldnt have got hard. i try taking trib, but i always break out bad, so i just tuff it out and wait for my natural test production to come back. it took about 4 weeks for it to come back. u might try tribulus, i know a lot of people say its good to bring ur natural test back up soon, but i find it just breaks my out bad with the acne, so i just let my test come back on its own.

    Quote Originally Posted by A&FGuy
    Age:23
    190lbs.
    6'1

    I have done 3 cycles including compounds such as Test E, Deca , and Tren A and have been off AAS for a Year. After my last cycle of:
    Test E 500mg 1-12/wk and Tren A 50mg ed 2-9/wk,
    do to my lack of organization and not getting gear b4 I started the cycle I was only able to do a week of nolva and clomid for PCT. I broke out all over my chest and it is now totally subsided with light scaring. I also recieved a light case of gyno which has made me choose not to do another cycle yet. The gyno was the size of a pea behind me nipple and I used letro to get rid of it. There is still a very small miniscule spot, but there is also a spot which is very small that I am unsure of, which is on the outside of my pec......???? (Im not sure what that means though, as gyno is usually behind the nipple in all the cases I have heard about.) What should I do about this? Another question has to do with sex drive and ed. My sex drive isnt nearly what it was before or on the cycle and I experience ed some times probably do to the letro and lack of PCT. I know this is do to my body not producing enough natural test also. I want to know if it would be beneficial for me to take just like nolvadex for 3 weeks to increase my natural test production to subside these problems? Any help would be great guys, thankyou!

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    For the libido stuffs I heard MyogenX works wonders. Might wanna give that a shot. It also suppose to get natty test up again. For acne... I'm "on" right now and taking nizoral 2% every 3rd day. I think it works.. But I don't know because I've takin it a week before I started my cycle. And believe it or not I have not broken out yet..

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    I have heard alot about tren just crippling libido for many months after a cycle.

    If you have the means to do so, run a full PCT now for 30 days, nolva, HCG , Tongkat Ali, ZMA, etc, and see if that helps to straighten you out. (Also viagra or cialis to get you through the tough spots.)

    If you aren't improved after a month, get your ass to the DR. Or get your ass to the DR now...you can read your body better than anyone else.

    Good luck,


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    any other suggestions to get my natural test levels back up?

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