Wasted time on... again..

**AlwaysCutting12** · 02-01-2007, 07:36 PM

Ok, here's the deal.. 10 weeks ago I began my second cycle, and as of this date I have only gained 3lbs.. I know EXACTLY why as well, and it's because I wasn't eating enough and I was overtraining.. I know I didn't lose fat, being I have almost none to lose and began my cycle this way.

I failed to eat enough, mainly because at the time, yet again I was placed under unneccessary stress from work with the holidays and all..

Here is what this cycle has consisted of so far:

Weeks 1-10: 60-70mg Prop/ED
Weeks 3-6: 50mg NPP/ED
Weeks 8-10: 37.5mg Tren /ED

Now my biggest upset is the fact I wasted these 10 weeks while I was under too much stress and physical labor to make any notable gains..

I don't know what to do from here, as at this point I am free of stress and have all the time/energy I need to now gain as I planned.. Having not gained anything really, would I be able to stretch out this cycle and make good gains as I would have had I had shit together from day 1? Or would gains be lousy due to already being on these dosages for 10 weeks?

I am on HRT with 200mg Testoserone Cypionate per week and have been for a while now.. I could take 6 weeks and head back down to HRT doses, but if I could extend this one and make awesome gains I would opt for that, being that during these next 6 weeks I've got nothing to do but train, eat and rest, and also I'm so lean right now occupying myself with leaning out is not a feasable option...

So what do you guys feel I should do here...? Keep in mind I'm on HRT, so recovery in terms of HPTA is irrelevant..

Thank you.

**nephilim666** · 02-01-2007, 07:39 PM

doses seem a little low, could jsut be cause i didnt spend time to do the mg/week but w/e . yea diet is important

**2deizel** · 02-01-2007, 07:51 PM

cycles all wrong doses are way to low and tren from week 8-10 only 2 weeks. try something like this for you next cycle.

1-12 750 mgs test your choice
1-10 300mgs deca
1-4 50mgs d-bol

train rest eat

**king6** · 02-01-2007, 07:57 PM

Even with a crappy diet and poor training you should have put on more than 3 lbs. But with bad training, diet, and low doses, then that might yield your results.

**jamikehat** · 02-01-2007, 08:01 PM

Up your doses and eat man

**nephilim666** · 02-01-2007, 08:21 PM

good good i was right about the doses, my brain hasent completely been fried.

**AlwaysCutting12** · 02-01-2007, 08:28 PM

Hold up.... This is in addition to 200mg/week cyp.

I have been on already for 10 weeks, this is not my cycle plan... LOL

Keep in mind, what I listed is what I've done SO FAR, not what I am doing entirely..

I PLANNED on running Tren for 6-8 weeks, thus giving me a 13-15 weeker, but posted this thread in hopes of some advice...

ALL TEST ADDED UP PER WEEK IS 620-690mg as I am on HRT as explained..

**AlwaysCutting12** · 02-01-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by king6

Even with a crappy diet and poor training you should have put on more than 3 lbs. But with bad training, diet, and low doses, then that might yield your results.

Would you suggest upping doses and continuting from here then?

**Manpretty** · 02-01-2007, 08:30 PM

420mg-490mg prop a week....seems ok to me

**Manpretty** · 02-01-2007, 08:33 PM

man take a week up the cals see how it goes.....at almost 700mg test a week you should be gaining with proper diet........ if you dont have the extra energy to convert to muscle then you wont gain.
post your diet

**Manpretty** · 02-01-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by king6

Even with a crappy diet and poor training you should have put on more than 3 lbs. But with bad training, diet, and low doses, then that might yield your results.

those arent low doses for most people

**AlwaysCutting12** · 02-01-2007, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

man take a week up the cals see how it goes.....at almost 700mg test a week you should be gaining with proper diet........ if you dont have the extra energy to convert to muscle then you wont gain.
post your diet

I was undereating... dramatically.. Training 6 days a week, working late, sleeping 6hrs/day, doing cardio daily, etc.

My routine flat out sucked..

**AlwaysCutting12** · 02-01-2007, 11:46 PM

Thoughts?

**IBdmfkr** · 02-01-2007, 11:50 PM

What are you stats and why even put your body under the stress of a cycle if you're not going to take it seriously.

On top of that bro your cycle was horribly setup.

Thoughts? Get your shit together and recoop from this cycle, get your diet and training back on track before considering AAS again IMO.