Summer Cycle for Div.1 Football Player (HELP ME WIN)

[darkzide]

Hi I'm 20 yrs old. 6'0ft 210 pounds (5.5% BF) currently in PCT and just finished a Sust. 250/ Masteron /Winstrol cycle. I'm looking for a summer cycle to get super strong and gain speed. Weight gain is really a winter thing for me. I have a propsed cycle but am willing to change it based on opinions. Oh by the way, I can't use Deca /Tren /EQ/ or anything that stays in your system for longer than 3 months because of NCAA drug testing. My proposed cycle looks decent but I'm afraid it'll give me more bulk and less athletic muscle. I basically want to get stronger and gain 3-5 pounds of lean weight. So critique/help!

Proposed Cyle:
wks 1-4 Dianabol 40mgs/day
Wks 1-4 Test. Suspension 700mgs/week
Wks 1-10 Test. E 500mgs /week
Wks 1-10 Primobolan 800mgs/ week
Wks 1-10 Winstrol/ Anavar 50/70mgs/day

[EQismypoise]

Sounds good to me suck you cant use tren though that would give you everything you want!

[lawsey000]

Looks nice...whats your PCT look like? Have you used suspension before? I'm using for my first time here, about 2 weeks into it....wow! Pure awesomeness.

[darkzide]

Thanx brother I know when I graduate I will try tren , but until then I gotta use every nook n cranny. I hope this works, Ill have to keep my diet on the leaner side instead of my bulkin style

[darkzide]

Pct is lways the same my try heavy 300 taper down dose with sum HCG

[stacked566]

Pick either winstrol /anavar or dbol to run as they are liver toxic, unless you planned to run injectable winny. Or use var bc its not too bad on the liver. Dbol could be substituted with Tbol for leaner gains, but I would just throw them both out and just use anavar. Winny could be bad for your joints and cardiovascular health. Also, i would drop the suspension as a front load and just use test prop. Suspension is notorious for bloat and weight gain.

[darkzide]

Just to give you guys an image of who your dealing with my last cycle sent me from 192-211. How much will this proposed cycle give me then? and to stacked566 how much would yours give me?

[stacked566]

Obviously its all diet/cardio dependent on actual weight and lean muscle mass gains. I mean realistically with a good bulking diet you could gain 30-40 lbs off your proposed cycle, with more than half being water weight/fat. If you were more stringent on your diet and didnt use suspension and dbol , a good 20lbs, with anywhere from 5-15 being pure lean muscle.

[darkzide]

So how about this brother:?
wks 1-4 Turanabol 40mgs/day
Wks 1-4 Test. prop 100mgs/EOD
Wks 1-10 Test. E 500mgs /week
Wks 1-10 Primobolan 800mgs/ week
Wks 1-10 Winstrol Injectable 50 mgs/EOD or Anavar 70mgs/day

[stacked566]

The only thing I would do would extend the test e one week after everything else is done to just end on the test. I always do better if I'm only recovering from test you know? Also, test prop is fine EOD, but I think you'll see it sooner if you inject ed. I'm on 100mg prop ed and I felt it by day 3. Good luck.

PS- I like anavar for your particular cycle just so u don't worry about cardiac hypetrophy/joint pain possibilites from winny, not to mention the strength gains you get with 'var.

[shredzs]

why not go with parabolan , youd get the benifits of tren
switch your test to prop
and go with primo, var and winny,
these would keep your detection times in the 4-5 week range allowing you to cylce longer while still passing drug tests
not sure how the cycle would look though

[darkzide]

If i only knew where to get legit parabolan i would, most out there are fakes

[armbar83]

Hi I'm 20 yrs old. 6'0ft 210 pounds (5.5% BF) currently in PCT and just finished a Sust. 250/ Masteron /Winstrol cycle. I'm looking for a summer cycle to get super strong and gain speed. Weight gain is really a winter thing for me. I have a propsed cycle but am willing to change it based on opinions. Oh by the way, I can't use Deca /Tren /EQ/ or anything that stays in your system for longer than 3 months because of NCAA drug testing. My proposed cycle looks decent but I'm afraid it'll give me more bulk and less athletic muscle. I basically want to get stronger and gain 3-5 pounds of lean weight. So critique/help!

Proposed Cyle:
wks 1-4 Dianabol 40mgs/day
Wks 1-4 Test. Suspension 700mgs/week
Wks 1-10 Test. E 500mgs /week
Wks 1-10 Primobolan 800mgs/ week
Wks 1-10 Winstrol/ Anavar 50/70mgs/day

Why so many compounds??

If it was me I would keep it simple and run test prop/var
scrap dbol and winstrol, dbol because of excessive bloat, winny for joints, and both for the fact they are orals on top of var...

8 weeks of test prop/and var would make you stronger, leaner, and youd probably gain 5 to 15 pounds of lbm if you eat clean and train hard.

the majority of your results will come from how you eat and train while on cycle, not necessarily the compounds you run, except for bloat...

It sounds like you like to run lots of compounds but really no point in running multiple compounds that hit the same receptor site. a good cycle shouldn't have more than 3 aas compounds (test, dht, nor19).

[armbar83]

If i only knew where to get legit parabolan i would, most out there are fakes

be careful, this sounds like a request to be scammed...

[JasonR]

darkside, can you please tell me about your history with aas, in term of side effects. im also an athlete and im interested.. have you ever got painful calf pumps and shorntess of breath by any of the steroids u took ? anything ever got you slower ? what improved you 40 the most ?

[GetHugeDieTrying]

Hi I'm 20 yrs old. 6'0ft 210 pounds (5.5% BF) currently in PCT and just finished a Sust. 250/ Masteron /Winstrol cycle. I'm looking for a summer cycle to get super strong and gain speed. Weight gain is really a winter thing for me. I have a propsed cycle but am willing to change it based on opinions. Oh by the way, I can't use Deca /Tren /EQ/ or anything that stays in your system for longer than 3 months because of NCAA drug testing. My proposed cycle looks decent but I'm afraid it'll give me more bulk and less athletic muscle. I basically want to get stronger and gain 3-5 pounds of lean weight. So critique/help!

Proposed Cyle:
wks 1-4 Dianabol 40mgs/day
Wks 1-4 Test. Suspension 700mgs/week
Wks 1-10 Test. E 500mgs /week
Wks 1-10 Primobolan 800mgs/ week
Wks 1-10 Winstrol/ Anavar 50/70mgs/day

OMG i hate reading threads like this, IF YOU WANT TO GAIN 3-5 LBS, EAT an EXTRA ****IN MEAL A DAY, OR ****IN START EATING. 3-5 lbs aint shit man. Scrap steriods , you dont need em. Or maybe you just dont know how to bodybuild. ohwell goodluck

[GetHugeDieTrying]

darkzide i would suggest, that you dont eat right, because you can always put on 5lbs no problem. Up the Cals, Up the Prot, Up the carbs, **** up the fat why not. N train harder!. You dont need that much gear to gain 5 lbs. Try test prop 1ml ed for 4 weeks. guarnteed u put on 15-20 lbs if u eat/train hard/sleep 8+ hours a day

[stacked566]

darkside, can you please tell me about your history with aas, in term of side effects. im also an athlete and im interested.. have you ever got painful calf pumps and shorntess of breath by any of the steroids u took ? anything ever got you slower ? what improved you 40 the most ?

Dbol gave me bad calf pumps during morning conditioning (used to play ball in D2). No shortness of breath, although on my current cycle (tren a, test prop, winny) I feel a little less in shape, but its ok cuz I'm done with playing.

[darkzide]

In reference to the guy asking about what improved my forty the most Id say was anavar and sust. 250 it wnet from 4.59 to 4.43.

[GetHugeDieTrying]

try strength training, youll gain the weight you want without all that gear

[chest6]

3-5lbs? You really don't even need gear then.

If you're set on it I wouldn't risk running enanthate . Why not just run somethin quick? Run short esters or run some esterless test...

1-8 prop/suspension 100mg/day
1-8 var 70-80mg/day

[jdDoWork]

with prop wouldnt he risk getting too sore from injections to even be able to run on injection days?....some times it hurts to even sit down

[armbar83]

with prop wouldnt he risk getting too sore from injections to even be able to run on injection days?....some times it hurts to even sit down

yah but thats the nature of the beast...its harder for collegiate athletes because they need fast acting compounds so they can test clean, and in the case of test (prop, suspension) they are irritating injectables.

you got your name from Rob and Big didnt you?? "i do work son, i do work"

[gorgorothsatanis]

Masteron and Test Prop eod and Anavar everyday. Killer, simple, effective cycle. Give it a try.

[jdDoWork]

yea, i just couldnt imagine telling my coach i cant condition today because my prop shots are hurting like hell, but as you said thats the nature of the beast especially when the ncaa can test us randomly year around its hard to do anything now....and yes, do work son!!!

[pavlenko]

deff run the primo with your cycle like you planned, i heard nothing but good things from it

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

Instead of focusing on gear to enhance your ability on the field, try altering your training to become more specific to your task at hand.

The gear won't make you a better player, only enhance your recovery time.

When I played college ball, I was doing heavy uphill sprints, power cleans, squats, plyometrics, stretching galore and variety of heavy ass circuits.

Football is about short anaerobic explosiveness and the ability to manoeuvre as a machine.

So to sum things up, get advice on how to train different, not the juice.

Either way, you seem to be in amazing shape from what you post and good luck.

[testosterona]

shit, if i was playin D1, i'd be "on" for SURE!! give the guy a break, he's in the NCAA for christ sakes!!!

test

[darkzide]

Thank you for all your kind words and I appreciate your compassion, but like I said Im doing this because Ive been lifitng since 7th grade, Ive peaked my body capacity muscle-wise. This is a way to get the weight to inflict pain on some runningbax who think there tough... Ill holla at you when i get drafted!!!! Once again thank yu!!

[stacked566]

Also, whoever said you can gain 5lbs on pure diet alone is full of it when it comes to this level. 5lbs of pure muscle? What are you smoking? I want some. A diet can get you 5lbs, 1-2 maybe pure muscle in about a month...AAS can get you 10lbs lean muscle in 6 weeks.

[sfte8]

drkzide..i need a cycle for my speed too..im coming off a knee injury and need to get bak my speed..unlike u though im a rookie when it comes to juice so any help would be appreciated

[Alstott40]

Instead of focusing on gear to enhance your ability on the field, try altering your training to become more specific to your task at hand.

The gear won't make you a better player, only enhance your recovery time.

When I played college ball, I was doing heavy uphill sprints, power cleans, squats, plyometrics, stretching galore and variety of heavy ass circuits.

Football is about short anaerobic explosiveness and the ability to manoeuvre as a machine.

So to sum things up, get advice on how to train different, not the juice.

Either way, you seem to be in amazing shape from what you post and good luck.

Well said..

[Hackamaniac]

drkzide..i need a cycle for my speed too..im coming off a knee injury and need to get bak my speed..unlike u though im a rookie when it comes to juice so any help would be appreciated

Start your own thread and you'll get alot more help

[cuban1983]

winny wreaked havoc on my joints, just beware....

[notorious_mem]

i think he means 3- 5 lbs of muscle gained with great speed and muscle gains.cus i could eat at red lobster and gain 3 lbs in a night.

[Baron]

So how about this brother:?
wks 1-4 Turanabol 40mgs/day
Wks 1-4 Test. prop 100mgs/EOD
Wks 1-10 Test. E 500mgs /week
Wks 1-10 Primobolan 800mgs/ week
Wks 1-10 Winstrol Injectable 50 mgs/EOD or Anavar 70mgs/day

damn, wouldnt 70mg of anavar give u crazy pumps (which is bad)?

[Nstart]

Just for your information, tren destroys your cardiovascular performance/endurance. Some people get winded just walking up a flight of stairs and we are talking about people who are endurance athletes before the cycle.

[PT]

why do people bump these old threads?

[Baron]

why do people bump these old threads?

i have a good idea: lets all start making new threads on every single little question we have instead of using the search button.

[intensityfreak]

Instead of focusing on gear to enhance your ability on the field, try altering your training to become more specific to your task at hand.

The gear won't make you a better player, only enhance your recovery time.

When I played college ball, I was doing heavy uphill sprints, power cleans, squats, plyometrics, stretching galore and variety of heavy ass circuits.

Football is about short anaerobic explosiveness and the ability to manoeuvre as a machine.

So to sum things up, get advice on how to train different, not the juice.

Either way, you seem to be in amazing shape from what you post and good luck.

i 95% ly disagree. i play ball in the scc. our coach wants us to juice. if your playin any DB or safty or wide out position it would help with breakin talkes but you must already have the athletic ability.

if your a D-lineman or a linebacker it will 100 percetly help you sed blocks andget off them. if you think im wrong obviously you have played with the big dawgs