clen?

**lil-SLIM** · 02-11-2007, 07:22 PM

Had some basic questions about clen

I'm on a handheld mobil device which makes search difficult so sorry if lame questions

can u take clen in pct?

is the substance illegal in us?

what is this two on two off technique all about?

Does it take away gains or just fat leavin u ripped?

what's an average dose like?

is it pills or do u shoot it?

I just got done with a cycle and wanna loose a lil fat I have before spring break to show abs better. I was thinkin a low dose for two weeks and bump up the cardio. if another two weeks is required ill proceed.

**Johny-too-small** · 02-11-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

Had some basic questions about clen

I'm on a handheld mobil device which makes search difficult so sorry if lame questions

can u take clen in pct? Yes
is the substance illegal in us? Not if you use it for scientific research

what is this two on two off technique all about? 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off

Does it take away gains or just fat leavin u ripped? It can help you lose bf if your diet is spot on.
what's an average dose like? do some research, its a ladder thing start at 60 mcgs and work your way up to 120.
is it pills or do u shoot it? Pills and liquid as far as I know. bump

I just got done with a cycle and wanna loose a lil fat I have before spring break to show abs better. I was thinkin a low dose for two weeks and bump up the cardio. if another two weeks is required ill proceed.

**lil-SLIM** · 02-11-2007, 09:22 PM

why is it illegal if it just helps u loose weight?

2 weeks on two off I understand that but why is it done this way?

I didn't need to loose too much could I get by with 40-80mg ladder ?

I realize good diet and excersize could get me these result but if I wanted to loose bf quick for spring break or an interview...

**ascendant** · 02-11-2007, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

why is it illegal if it just helps u loose weight?
because the fda refuses to approve it for human use. do some research on it on pubmed or around the web and you'll see why. one of the biggest concerns is heart damage caused by myocyte necrosis (cell death) and myocyte apoptosis, which for some odd reason despite the fact it's been on the market for quite some time, has yet to be confirmed in humans.

2 weeks on two off I understand that but why is it done this way?
because after 2 1/2 to 3 weeks at most, your body will begin to downgrade the receptors that respond to the clen (beta-2's). this basically means your body will get less and less from the clen until it's virtually worthless to you. by taking two weeks off, the receptors refresh themselves and you can begin using the clen again with peak efficiency.

I didn't need to loose too much could I get by with 40-80mg ladder ?
personally, wouldn't advise starting with 60mcg's, maybe not even 40mcg's your first time around. start with 20mcgs, then bump it 20mcgs/day until the sides become intolerable or until you feel they're pretty close to it, then just ease off 10-20mcgs from there and stay at that dose. i wouldn't advise going over 160mcg's/day however, and for me personally, i can't take more than 70mcgs as the anxiety and edginess drives me too crazy. then again, i am pretty sensitive to stimulants, so many people can take well more than i can tolerate.

I realize good diet and excersize could get me these result but if I wanted to loose bf quick for spring break or an interview...
get your diet and exercise in check first, then use the clen to compliment that. clen won't do much as far as compensating for lack of either, but it will do a great job at accelerating your fat-loss process when utilized with them.

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