4th Cycle : Test/Boldo/Win

**trilbarou** · 02-18-2007, 02:21 PM

Hello ,

This is my 4th cycle .
I'm 30 year old , 190 pounds and 5'71 tall
Doing bodybuilding since 15 years old , diet and training are optimised .
But taking stero since 2 years only.
(My 3th cycle was very disappointing and was :
Wk 1-10 :250 test En / Wk 1-10 :200 Tren En / Wk 6-10 :200 Winny)

For this 4th one , i thinked to do :

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-15: 400 Boldenone U
Wk 10-15: 200 Winny

OR

Wk 1-15: 300 Test En
Wk 1-15: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 10-15: 200 Winny

For you , what is the best ?

Thanks a lot for answering

**SMAN12b** · 02-18-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by trilbarou

Hello ,

This is my 4th cycle .
I'm 30 year old , 190 pounds and 5'71 tall
Doing bodybuilding since 15 years old , diet and training are optimised .
But taking stero since 2 years only.
(My 3th cycle was very disappointing and was :
Wk 1-10 :250 test En / Wk 1-10 :200 Tren En / Wk 6-10 :200 Winny)

For this 4th one , i thinked to do :

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-15: 400 Boldenone U
Wk 10-15: 200 Winny

OR

Wk 1-15: 300 Test En
Wk 1-15: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 10-15: 200 Winny

For you , what is the best ?

Thanks a lot for answering

If I was running that cycle, I would do:

Week 1-14 Test E @ 600mgs/week
Week 1-12 Eq @ 600mgs/week
Week 10-16 winny @ 75-100mgs/ED

PCT starts 14 days after last test E shot which will also match day after last winny

your diet and your training have to be correct for your goals so that you don't get disappointed again

**b4juice** · 02-18-2007, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

If I was running that cycle, I would do:

Week 1-14 Test E @ 600mgs/week
Week 1-12 Eq @ 600mgs/week
Week 10-16 winny @ 75-100mgs/ED

PCT starts 14 days after last test E shot which will also match day after last winny

your diet and your training have to be correct for your goals so that you don't get disappointed again

you know alot. my question is the equipoise i get is 50 mg strength. from my vet. my test is oil based at 200 mg strength. that means 12 cc of equipoise a week. ouch done that before. but i also put on 12 lbs that month. my question is can i mix the oil steroids together or do it in seperate shots.

**SMAN12b** · 02-19-2007, 12:00 AM

yes you can mix them in the same syringe

**b4juice** · 02-19-2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

yes you can mix them in the same syringe

whats the most cc you recommend in one area.

**mkrulic** · 02-19-2007, 12:24 AM

what do you expect from the eq? I know you posted a 12 pound gain from the last time you ran it but you'd or got this from the test by itself dont you think? gains in size are not common w/ this compound.

**SMAN12b** · 02-19-2007, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by b4juice

whats the most cc you recommend in one area.

I wouldn't go over 3ml in larger muscle groups and maybe 2 in the smaller ones.

but it depends on what your body is used to and can handle. some people shoot more but I would go slowly to see if your muscles can handle all the oil

**mkrulic** · 02-19-2007, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by b4juice

whats the most cc you recommend in one area.

2cc's or more makes me sick

**dhriscerr** · 02-19-2007, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

If I was running that cycle, I would do:

Week 1-14 Test E @ 600mgs/week
Week 1-12 Eq @ 600mgs/week
Week 10-16 winny @ 75-100mgs/ED

PCT starts 14 days after last test E shot which will also match day after last winny

your diet and your training have to be correct for your goals so that you don't get disappointed again

Shouldnt EQ go to week 13? 21 days before PCT to Enathates 14 days??

Also man I dont know if id run EQ if it was 50mgs/ml because thats just a ton of hassle, thats like 6cc's twice a week, so you'd need atleast 3 sites at one sitting for the EQ and test. And the reason you were dissapointed was your dosage on last cycle was Very Low.

**SMAN12b** · 02-19-2007, 02:46 AM

YES ! you are absolutely correct. 21 days for EQ, i just tend to err on the side of caution...

**trilbarou** · 02-21-2007, 03:08 AM

Finaly , it will be

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-15: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 11-17: 200 Winny

power PTC will start Wk 18

Wk 1-2: 1500ui/5 day
Wk 1-4: 100mg Clomid/day
Wk 1-6: 10mg Nolvadex /day
Wk 6-10: Clenbuterol .

Thanks all for answers

**SMAN12b** · 02-21-2007, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by trilbarou

Finaly , it will be

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-15: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 11-17: 200 Winny 200 what? Ed or weekly??????

power PTC will start Wk 18

Wk 1-2: 1500ui/5 day
Wk 1-4: 100mg Clomid/day
Wk 1-6: 10mg Nolvadex /day
Wk 6-10: Clenbuterol .

Thanks all for answers

looks good , can you tell me how you are doing the winny? Is it 100 ED or weekly???

**hugovsilva** · 02-21-2007, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by trilbarou

Finaly , it will be

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-14: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 11-17: 350 Winny

power PTC will start Wk 18

Wk 1-3: 500ui/day
Wk 1-4: 100mg Clomid/day (wouldn't use clomid)
Wk 1-4: 25mg Aromasin/day
Wk 1-6: 20mg Nolvadex /day
Wk 1-8: Clenbuterol .

Thanks all for answers

Watch in bold an red what i would do.

**trilbarou** · 02-21-2007, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

looks good , can you tell me how you are doing the winny? Is it 100 ED or weekly???

50mg EOD

**trilbarou** · 02-21-2007, 05:44 AM

ok Hugovsilva , but why whould you stop Boldo at week 14 ?

**hugovsilva** · 02-21-2007, 05:51 AM

because it has a longer half life than the enanthate and will be active for more time. They both have to be low enough at the same time in order to start pct. Maybe 13 is more correct than 14.

**SMAN12b** · 02-21-2007, 06:10 AM

PCT timing for EQ is 21 days after last inject
PCT timing for Test E is 14 days after last inject. so you want to stop the EQ a t least a week before the test so PCT timing matches

And Winny's effective half life is between 8-12 hours, therefore you need to take it at least ED not EOD

**dhriscerr** · 02-21-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by trilbarou

Finaly , it will be

Wk 1-15: 600 Test En
Wk 1-14: 600 Boldenone U
Wk 11-17: 200 WinnyEOD wont be as good as ED

power PTC will start Wk 17

Wk 1-2: 1500ui/5 day
Wk 1-4: 100mg Clomid/day
Wk 1-6: 10mg Nolvadex /day
Wk 6-10: Clenbuterol

Thanks all for answers

You have to change PCT to week 17 because it will be 14 days after Test E and 21 days after EQ if you wait to 18 like you said earlier then both will be out of your system for a week.

**dhriscerr** · 02-21-2007, 12:04 PM

^^^^^^Never Mind I was reading it differnt thinking of 2 weeks but your right with 18 because you will run it all of week 15 so weeks 16 and 17 will be off so 18 is correct start time. My Bust. But do change EQ to one week before Test. Also Winny is kind of low, and unless you have ran clomid before you wont know if its right for you or not. but you can run winny up until the day before PCT starts.