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    The best cutting cicle...

    ....Or at least that's what is intended to be

    I've put together different cicles used to get rid fat, all the compounds listed here have sides so i'll be clear before trying this you should at least have a prior experience with something easier and read all you can about them:

    The cicle is based on:

    Ephedrine or norephedrine or pseudoephedrine (it depends on the availability Ex: in my country pseudo-ephedrine is available without prescription....)

    Caffeine: You can buy pills or just have coffee cup

    Aspirine: I personally use the Bayer brand but generic acetylsalicylic acid is the same and a lot cheaper

    Yohimbine: Supplements shop have this

    Also known as ECAY Stack, used to raise body temperature, heart rate and metabolism in general...

    T3: Available at http://www.ar-r.com/, helps your body burn more nutrients

    Testosterone Propionate , helps to preserve Lean Body Mass from the aggression of T3

    Zaditen/Katoifen to upregulate your receptors after ECAY downregulated them so you can have a longer cicle


    ECAY= 25 Mg of Ephedrine OR 60 Mg Pseudoephedrine/200 mg caffeine OR 100 ml espresso coffèe OR a cup and half of coffèe/ from 80 to 160 mg aspirine ( i use pills containing 325 mgs cut in half) / Yohimbine 2,5 Mgs

    The cicle is 6 weeks long:

    DAY ... Mor ....... ½ Mor ....... Lunch .... Aft ........... Even ....... B/f sleep
    01 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    02 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3
    03 ... ECAY ... .60 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    04 ... ECAY ... .80 mcgs T3
    05 ... ECAY ... .80 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    06 ... ECAY ... 100 mcgs T3
    07 ... ECAY ... 100 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    08 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY
    09 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test
    10 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY
    11 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test
    12 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY
    13 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test
    14 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY
    15 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    16 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ......................... 2 Cpr Zad
    17 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    18 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ......................... 2 Cpr Zad
    19 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    20 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ......................... 2 Cpr Zad
    21 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    22 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY
    23 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test
    24 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY
    25 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test
    26 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY
    27 ... ECAY ... 120 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY ... 100 mgs test
    28 ... ECAY ... 100 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ... ECAY
    29 ... ECAY ... 100 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ............... 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    30 ... ECAY ... 100 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ..................................... 2 Cpr Zad
    31 ... ECAY ... .80 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    32 ... ECAY ... .80 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ...................................... 2 Cpr Zad
    33 ... ECAY ... .80 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    34 ... ECAY ... .60 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ...................................... 2 Cpr Zad
    35 ... ECAY ... .60 mcgs T3 ... ECAY ................ 100 mgs test ... 2 Cpr Zad
    36 ... ECAY ... .60 mcgs T3
    37 ... ECAY ... .60 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    38 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3
    39 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    40 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3
    41 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3 ............................ 100 mgs test
    42 ... ECAY ... .40 mcgs T3

    If you want more informations you may find those treads usefull:

    Clen/T3 Cutting Cycle...
    Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

    Any suggestion, polite comment and misspell correction are very welcome..
    Last edited by acciaio; 02-27-2007 at 06:23 PM.

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    Fixed
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    It took me time to write all of this so..... bump

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    the first 7 days only taking ecay once a day? nowhere near enough. should be 3 to 4 times daily for 14 days then 14 off. strait through with no benadryl, etc., is worthless. 25mg ephedra a day simply will not work.

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    But this cicle is not just an ECA... You take yohimbine with it, that's a stimulant as well and T3, so taking too many mgs of ephedra will result on sides difficult to handle.... The first week purpose is to get used on sides of the cycle... I don't think is wise to make drastic changes all at once... The use of benadryl or Zaditen allows the cycle to be protracted for more than 2 weeks and still be at its full potential.... Why do you say Benadryl is useless, do you know something i don't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acciaio
    But this cicle is not just an ECA... You take yohimbine with it, that's a stimulant as well and T3, so taking too many mgs of ephedra will result on sides difficult to handle.... The first week purpose is to get used on sides of the cycle... I don't think is wise to make drastic changes all at once... The use of benadryl or Zaditen allows the cycle to be protracted for more than 2 weeks and still be at its full potential.... Why do you say Benadryl is useless, do you know something i don't?
    no. i said to run it without benadryl is useless. nowhere in your cycle did i see it.(now i see it) even with yohimbine, 25mg a day epedrine is pretty useless. if you do use benadryl in week 3 then i guess you can "ramp up". run it a little higher. at leasst 50mg a day then up to 100mg then back down if you want.

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    Oh but i put Zaditen instead of benadryl that does the exact same thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by acciaio
    Oh but i put Zaditen instead of benadryl that does the exact same thing....
    yea i saw it when i read it again. have you ever used prop before? stickin eod gets pretty painful.

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    No, i didn't, but this is what i have available... It comes in 100mcgs/Ml, and i prefer to take it all and don't leave sirynges or opened vial around.... Did you ever used it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acciaio
    No, i didn't, but this is what i have available... It comes in 100mcgs/Ml, and i prefer to take it all and don't leave sirynges or opened vial around.... Did you ever used it?
    yes. its the only thing ive ever shot that bothers me. many people have different experiences but prop hurts me like hell. cutting it with b12 helps some but not me!

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    I'll have a try when i'll start this... If it hurts too much maybe i'll split the dose and take ie Each Day.... I'll see it when i'm in.... Thanx for the advice...

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