I am new to this forum and Im attempting to educate myself a little. From what it looks like tren and extream tren are two different products. Xtream tren you can find in a nutrion shop and tren of course you cant. Is this a true statement. American celluar labs makes it. It was recommended to me along with ah 89 to take both of them together for a month then do a post cycle estro xtreme......any input you may have will be helpful. From what I can gather is this would be kind of like the minor leagues of steroids . I also thought that the real stuff has to be injected and the stuff im talking about is oral pill.