Cycle Critique please ...

**kidcanada2000** · 03-12-2007, 12:53 AM

thinking of running the following cycle in a few months.

weeks 1-6 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-6 NPP 100mg EOD
weeks 1-12 Deca 600mg / week
weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg / week
weeks 6-12 Winstrol 50mg / day

PS. i have run tren before, good gains, but i'd rather choose deca for joints as i have bad tendon/ligaments from heavy poundage abuse.

gonna run either Liquidex at 0.5mg EOD or Letro at 1.25mg E3D thru out the entire cycle as an AI.

stats

this will be my 5th cycle
25 years old
248lbs @ 6 feet around 18-20Body Fat.

Goals, just a powerlifter looking to increase strength in the squat/dead/bench.

thanks guys.

**Jason865** · 03-12-2007, 12:56 AM

Winny is terrible for tendons and ligaments esp if you are a powerlifter, drop it and add tren .

**Jefferey** · 03-12-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by kidcanada2000

thinking of running the following cycle in a few months.

weeks 1-6 Test Prop 100mg EOD
weeks 1-6 NPP 100mg EOD
weeks 1-12 Deca 600mg / week
weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 750mg / week
weeks 6-12 Winstrol 50mg / day

PS. i have run tren before, good gains, but i'd rather choose deca for joints as i have bad tendon/ligaments from heavy poundage abuse.

gonna run either Liquidex at 0.5mg EOD or Letro at 1.25mg E3D thru out the entire cycle as an AI.

stats

this will be my 5th cycle
25 years old
248lbs @ 6 feet around 18-20Body Fat.

Goals, just a powerlifter looking to increase strength in the squat/dead/bench.

thanks guys.

I don;t understand your cycle..You have two test running 6 weeks and two deca's the same..Cut the Prop to weeks 1 & 2 and the same with the NPP.

**Cutler fan** · 03-12-2007, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Winny is terrible for tendons and ligaments esp if you are a powerlifter, drop it and add tren.

do not worry about winny if it is combinated with estrogenic steroid like test and deca ou wont feel joint problems. However i do not see reason why to take the prop for so long, better give your self several weeks more with enan- wont be such pain in the A.

**Snrf** · 03-12-2007, 01:20 PM

I'd run the NPP and Prop the whole time if I was gonna do it, scrap the long esters

**Jason865** · 03-12-2007, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cutler fan

do not worry about winny if it is combinated with estrogenic steroid like test and deca ou wont feel joint problems. .

Not true

**Cutler fan** · 03-12-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Not true

It`s quite true all the powelifters in my gym love winny stacked with test. In my personal experience when stacked with estrogenic roids no joint problems.

**dhriscerr** · 03-12-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

I'd run the NPP and Prop the whole time if I was gonna do it, scrap the long esters

I agree, then you could cut it down to 10 weeks also. Or if your just looking for the Kickstart drop Prop and NPP to 2-4 weeks, but anything longer and your going to be sitting on alot of test and deca for weeks 3-6 and that could give some sides. Also if your just lookign for the power you could always throw in Dbol since your not worried about bloat if you want a kickstart and run longer Esters. Also why do you want to run winny? Just curious as this is for just powerlifting and strength?

**vicious cycle** · 03-12-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jefferey

I don;t understand your cycle..You have two test running 6 weeks and two deca's the same..Cut the Prop to weeks 1 & 2 and the same with the NPP.

I agree with this.

**kidcanada2000** · 03-12-2007, 04:02 PM

thanks for the replies guys, i was only running NPP and prop to kick start the cycle. i don't wanna take dbol /anadrol .

now only reason why i wrote six weeks was, it takes 4 weeks before i fully feel the test and about 5 weeks for deca so i was thinking of just doing it for 6 weeks.

but i see your point, better to be patient and only run it for 2-3 weeks as a kick starter, than to be on it longer and get side effects.

cheers.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 03-12-2007, 04:06 PM

I like your cycle.

I understand why your running NPP, Prop to get things started early while waiting for the longer esters to take effect.

The only thing I would change is to run the winstrol until the first day of PCT. Do not stop it on week 12 with the others, so during the gap its still working it's magic.

Are you running oral winstrol or depot?

If it is oral I would bump the dosage up.

**kidcanada2000** · 03-12-2007, 06:22 PM

its oral winstrol bro, thanks i will follow your advice, i think i will run it right up to pct time so there is no time off.

ill do i either 75 or 100mg then i guess, good to end it , harden up the gains and get that dry look at the end.

thanks.

**shrpskn** · 03-13-2007, 07:34 PM

I think the cycle looks sweet...the npp and test prop at the start is well understood...good kickstart as you wait for the long-acting esters to release.

Good luck,