Help a New Member

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 04:29 PM

Sup Fellas

well im new to this site and have never taken any preformance enhancing drug before. Im not a professional body builder or anything for that matter, im 19 and have been working out to lose fat and gain some lean muscle.

well i recently heard of Winstrol or stanztonolol as they call it, but yea i heard that it premotes lean muscle mass and you lose body fat as a result. is this true?

i just need a few questions answered (pleese excuse my ignorance)

Is Winstrol dangerous? will i have weird feeling like headaches or passout of anything like that?

Will Winstrol make me more feminine due to the fact that steriods give you estrogen or sumthing like that.

What are the side affects?

and lastly can someone explain what winstrol does, b/c i only know a little bit of information. I want to take it in pill form.

**scribbs12** · 03-29-2007, 04:31 PM

--taken from steroid profiles----

Click Drug Name to view Profile: Winstrol

Stanozolol
[17beta-Hydroxy-17-methyl-5alpha-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole]
Molecular Weight: 344.5392
Molecular Formula: C22H36N2O
Melting Point:N/A
Manufacturer: (Originally) Sterling
Release Date:1962
Effective Dose(men): 50-100mgs/day
Effective Dose (women): 2.5-10mgs/day
Active Life:8hours
Detection Time:3 weeks (oral) to 9 weeks (injectable)
Androgenic /Anabolic Ratio:30:320

**scribbs12** · 03-29-2007, 04:33 PM

ps-- all steroids are dangerous if you dont know what you're doing..

and the pill form is known to be one of the more liver toxic orals...6weeks at 50mg.. is probably most people's recommendation for you+pct

**Cat316** · 03-29-2007, 04:33 PM

yes what scribbs wrote...your young just work on cardio in the morning and diet....roids arent a magic pill otherwise everyone would look the same bro

**scribbs12** · 03-29-2007, 04:40 PM

and alot of people dont think winny is not a good idea to take by itself... but i forgot why... so that just means... more research for you--and stats/goals.. would help people on the board give you better information on what they think is best for you.. you may not like what they have to say..but they are providing information- in your best interest

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 04:41 PM

wow, reading that was shocking espicially the whole liver toxin. this is the first time ive have ever considered this and man im having second thoughts.

**michaelmotorcycle** · 03-29-2007, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kimo27

wow, reading that was shocking espicially the whole liver toxin. this is the first time ive have ever considered this and man im having second thoughts.

send me your winnys ill eat them

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by michaelmotorcycle

send me your winnys ill eat them

well its practically a workout buddy who ive known for along time and he was going to hook it up but im going to have to delay that how about

ephedra? im looking to lose some body fat so i can get cut in around 1-2 months. ive been eating healty and excerciseing everyday for 2 hours straight.

**scribbs12** · 03-29-2007, 09:10 PM

how about trying clen .. and eca.... 2 weeks on clen.. 2 weeks eca.. 2 weeks on clen...

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by scribbs12

how about trying clen.. and eca.... 2 weeks on clen.. 2 weeks eca.. 2 weeks on clen...

god i dont mean to be stupid but what is clen ? and is it legal? i dont care if its not its all the same to me. what does clen do also?

i hope you can help me!! lol

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 09:24 PM

ok i looked up what clen is it looks red and is in a spray bottle, how do i take it? i really dont wanna inject anything in me, ive never done that befor and i dont want to start now. can someone tell me what clen does?

**topnotch** · 03-29-2007, 09:25 PM

man, you are way too young to be trying these types of things...your body at this age is producing more hormones naturally than you would believe. If you have your training, and diet on, you can get to anything you want right now. Don't screw yourself up by starting to young...and stay on here and just research research research...you can just read every thread possible and learn so much on here that you won't need to ask many questions when you come to the point of being ready...by the way welome to AR

**bpm1** · 03-29-2007, 09:27 PM

bro do some searching in this forum, u can find all u r looking for.its gonna take some time though, i spent a few days and 8-10 hrs searching before i ever posted up. all the questions u are asking are pretty basic and easy to find. people dont mind helping but they arent going to spoon feed u. u r in the right place keep looking!!! search. search, search

**Kimo27** · 03-29-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by bpm1

bro do some searching in this forum, u can find all u r looking for.its gonna take some time though, i spent a few days and 8-10 hrs searching before i ever posted up. all the questions u are asking are pretty basic and easy to find. people dont mind helping but they arent going to spoon feed u. u r in the right place keep looking!!! search. search, search

k thx man, yea sry i just want a way to get toned and gain some muscle (not crazy style) ill search the sites

**bpm1** · 03-29-2007, 10:24 PM

hey bro look up perfectbeast2001 he has got a clen faq that will pretty much answer any quest about clen, check it out its agood read

**Kimo27** · 04-02-2007, 09:38 AM

yea i looked up his faq it was great i might consider doing clen , but if neone has a opinion on T3? i heard T3 was good but it needs to be taken with another AS.

just wondering what would be the overall effect if taken without any AS.