Comments welcome on upcoming cycle

[biglegs2006]

First a little stats before I give the info.
I am 29. 240lbs currently around 13%BF
competed last year for the first time at 187lbs (3rd place out of 13)
Great diet and dedication.
Great pain tolorance and cardio doesn't bother me at all.
I used the off time to EAT EAT EAT.
I really think I could compete clean at around 200lbs this year but going to make sure I take home some hardware.
Here is my upcoming cycle.

1-3 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Test Cip 400mg/wk
7-11 Test Ethanate 400mg/wk
14-16 Test Prop 100 mg EOD
11-16 Tren A 100mg EOD
12-16 Whin 100mg EOD week 15 & 16 ED
10-12 Liquid T-Bol 20mg ED
13-16 Anavar 40mg ED
1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
1-16 adex .25ml ED
14-16 Provarion 25mg ED
Also need help with PCT
I have plenty of HMG, Ndex, Adex, Clomid just don't knwo exactly how I sould use it. Getting mixed signals about PCT from different people.
So how does it look?
I want to hit stage lean and hard around 215lbs

[biglegs2006]

First a little stats before I give the info.
I am 29. 240lbs currently around 13%BF
competed last year for the first time at 187lbs (3rd place out of 13)
Great diet and dedication.
Great pain tolorance and cardio doesn't bother me at all.
I used the off time to EAT EAT EAT.
I really think I could compete clean at around 200lbs this year but going to make sure I take home some hardware.
Here is my upcoming cycle.

1-3 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Test Cip 400mg/wk
7-11 Test Ethanate 400mg/wk
14-16 Test Prop 100 mg EOD
11-16 Tren A 100mg EOD
12-16 Whin 100mg EOD week 15 & 16 ED
10-12 Liquid T-Bol 20mg ED
13-16 Anavar 40mg ED
1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
1-16 adex .25ml ED
14-16 Provarion 25mg ED
Also need help with PCT
I have plenty of HMG, Ndex, Adex, Clomid just don't knwo exactly how I sould use it. Getting mixed signals about PCT from different people.
So how does it look?
I want to hit stage lean and hard around 215lbs

[SMAN12b]

Looks like you have NO clue

how tall are you?
Have you done any steroids before?
WHy are you switching between Test Cyp and Enanthate ?
WHy a 16 week cycle? 9 different steroids??
Prop is best ED not EOD
WInny should be ED not EOD
Why weeks 12-14 No Test??

[Booz]

too many compounds and you need to do some more research mate,i dont like the way you have set this up at all...................

[fabry]

you forgot to add:
deca
masteron
drols
halo
dbols

work on them and you'll get the "best stack ever"

MUST BE A JOKE!

[biglegs2006]

Looks like you have NO clue

how tall are you?
Have you done any steroids before?
WHy are you switching between Test Cyp and Enanthate ?
WHy a 16 week cycle? 9 different steroids??
Prop is best ED not EOD
WInny should be ED not EOD
Why weeks 12-14 No Test??

I am 5'9 1/2
Yes I have just not alot of them. Ran some test and whinny before.
I was told you need to change to a different ester after 6 weeks because your body can get use to it.
16 weeks because that is when my diet for the show starts.
No test on week 11-13 because I am coming off the long ester of Test E and picking up in week 14-16 with Prop.

Here is the deal,
I have 2 bottles of Prop 100mg/cc 20 cc bottles
I have 2 bottles of Test C 300mg/cc 10 cc bottles
I have 1 bottle of Test E 300mg/cc 10 cc bottle
I have 2 bottles of EQ 400mg/cc 10 cc bottles
I have 4 bottles of Tren A 100mg/cc 10cc bottles
Also have Whinny, Nolva, Clomid, HMG, Ardex, Clen , Tbol, Anavar , and T3 avalible.
You guys give me a clue then.
That is why I posted here before I did anything. I wanted feed back, not smart a$$ comments.

[GHO5T]

First a little stats before I give the info.
I am 29. 240lbs currently around 13%BF
competed last year for the first time at 187lbs (3rd place out of 13)
Great diet and dedication.
Great pain tolorance and cardio doesn't bother me at all.
I used the off time to EAT EAT EAT.
I really think I could compete clean at around 200lbs this year but going to make sure I take home some hardware.
Here is my upcoming cycle.

1-3 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Test Cip 400mg/wk
7-11 Test Ethanate 400mg/wk
14-16 Test Prop 100 mg EOD
11-16 Tren A 100mg EOD
12-16 Whin 100mg EOD week 15 & 16 ED
10-12 Liquid T-Bol 20mg ED
13-16 Anavar 40mg ED
1-16 EQ 400mg/wk
1-16 adex .25ml ED
14-16 Provarion 25mg ED
Also need help with PCT
I have plenty of HMG, Ndex, Adex, Clomid just don't knwo exactly how I sould use it. Getting mixed signals about PCT from different people.
So how does it look?
I want to hit stage lean and hard around 215lbs

Woah bro, you competed last year at 187 and now your 240.

Im curious as to if this was a natural gain or w/ gear.

[taiboxa]

Woah bro, you competed last year at 187 and now your 240.

Im curious as to if this was a natural gain or w/ gear.

its a rebound effect from being depleted
super saturation of glycogen reserves and water... its not uncommon though its not like ur putting on lbm.. just ur body over reacting to get to homeostasis

[Alfamale]

No offense but your cycle is crazy... in a bad way.

[taiboxa]

drop the prop/eq/and OT or Var for sure.. cycle looks like someone just took leftovers from 3 different meals and mashed em together.. NOT IDEAL imo

[biglegs2006]

still no solid advice. You have the list of gear I have.

[fabry]

still no solid advice. You have the list of gear I have.

no solid advice?
maybe because it seems you are a bit "too much" confused...
why dont you make some more search, referring to your goals and then come back with a "more reasonable" cycle?

i am not a guru, but i think you should read a bit more bro...

[taiboxa]

no solid advice?
maybe because it seems you are a bit "too much" confused...
why dont you make some more search, referring to your goals and then come back with a "more reasonable" cycle?

i am not a guru, but i think you should read a bit more bro...

ROFL oh that was good ..

[Outta Kontrol]

still no solid advice. You have the list of gear I have.

Bro, it's no ones duty or responsibility to "create" a cycle from the compounds you have. There has been some valuable comments and advice given in this thread. No matter how sarcastic, funny, rude or comical they may be, the underlying message is that your cycle is "Outta Kontrol" and not in a good way. Here's what you do.... Take that list that you gave everyone, come up with another cycle (or a few other cycles) and then ask for critisism on a new (hopefully improved) cycle.

disclaimer.... this is in no way meant to be a smart a$$ comment.

[Manpretty]

I am 5'9 1/2
Yes I have just not alot of them. Ran some test and whinny before.
I was told you need to change to a different ester after 6 weeks because your body can get use to it.
16 weeks because that is when my diet for the show starts.
No test on week 11-13 because I am coming off the long ester of Test E and picking up in week 14-16 with Prop.

Here is the deal,
I have 2 bottles of Prop 100mg/cc 20 cc bottles
I have 2 bottles of Test C 300mg/cc 10 cc bottles
I have 1 bottle of Test E 300mg/cc 10 cc bottle
I have 2 bottles of EQ 400mg/cc 10 cc bottles
I have 4 bottles of Tren A 100mg/cc 10cc bottles
Also have Whinny, Nolva, Clomid, HMG, Ardex, Clen , Tbol, Anavar , and T3 avalible.
You guys give me a clue then.
That is why I posted here before I did anything. I wanted feed back, not smart a$$ comments.

how many previous cycles have you ran?

[nbkandrew13]

nobody is trying to be a dick its just you shouldnt plan your cycle based on what you have laying around establish some goals do the due diligence (research) and what you already have you have save the rest for another time your gonna have to invest some money to get the results. its just the guys that have been here along time get asked this question 200 times a day by people with no research being done. relax

[BG]

I like the prop jump and end, but ed shots for sure. Stick with cyp all the way. I would run the proviron throughout for your dht, then pct nolva/hcg . Thats enough for one cycle.

[BG]

You could also add some deca or eq, I make sure I have some in every cycle.


Edit: Deca that is in every cycle.

[biglegs2006]

I like the prop jump and end, but ed shots for sure. Stick with cyp all the way. I would run the proviron throughout for your dht, then pct nolva/hcg. Thats enough for one cycle.

So here is the new cycle
Wk 1-3 prop 100 mg ED
Wk 1-11 Test Cyp 400mg/wk
Wk 14-16 Prop 100mg ED
Wk 1-16 EQ 400/wk
Wk 10-16 Anavar 20-40mg ED

THe Prop jump and end looks good even though I am totally off test on weeks 12-13?
weeks Do you thin I should run the Cyp at 400/wk or 500/wk.
I have also read that running EQ any lower than 400/wk is a waste of time, is that true.
Using the Anavar as a hardener coming into the show. Is that alright?

See now that is some good sound advice BIGGUNS101.
Thank You.
That is a lot different than saying it sux and not saying why.
Or even saying drop a couple of things.
You guys might not think I reasearched this but this was reserched.
I might have gotten some bad info but I have read the profiles and talked with another bodybuilders who uses gear plenty. One helped me on the cycle too.
I am sorry for trying to learn.
Have you ever thought that is why people might abuse steriods . Because when they come for knowledge all they get, FOR THE MOST PART, Is sarcatic remarks and brow beating comment.!
For those of you trying to help, sincerly thanks.
For the others go do some curls you washed up never has beens.

[Outta Kontrol]

that's a good looking cycle to me. You should get ripped and hard with good diet. How's the PCT?

"Washed up never has beens" WOW!!! Harsh

I agree. I like the prop kickstart and at the end of the cycle too. Will see results/gains fast and should be able to start PCT soon after.

Good luck bro.

[biglegs2006]

THe Prop jump and end looks good even though I am totally off test on weeks 12-13?
weeks Do you thin I should run the Cyp at 400/wk or 500/wk.
I have also read that running EQ any lower than 400/wk is a waste of time, is that true.
Using the Anavar as a hardener coming into the show. Is that alright?

[Booz]

So here is the new cycle
Wk 1-3 prop 100 mg ED
Wk 1-11 Test Cyp 400mg/wk
Wk 14-16 Prop 100mg ED
Wk 1-16 EQ 400/wk
Wk 10-16 Anavar 20-40mg ED

THe Prop jump and end looks good sorry no it donteven though I am totally off test on weeks 12-13?
weeks Do you thin I should run the Cyp at 400/wk or 500/wk.
I have also read that running EQ any lower than 400/wk is a waste of time, is that true.
Using the Anavar as a hardener coming into the show. Is that alright?

See now that is some good sound advice BIGGUNS101.
Thank You.
That is a lot different than saying it sux and not saying why.
Or even saying drop a couple of things.
You guys might not think I reasearched this but this was reserched.
I might have gotten some bad info but I have read the profiles and talked with another bodybuilders who uses gear plenty. One helped me on the cycle too.
I am sorry for trying to learn.
Have you ever thought that is why people might abuse steriods . Because when they come for knowledge all they get, FOR THE MOST PART, Is sarcatic remarks and brow beating comment.!
For those of you trying to help, sincerly thanks.
For the others go do some curls you washed up never has beens.

right then this is better but still not ideal mate................
either extend the cyp to week 17 or extend the prop roughly 14 days past the eq............
this way you will be able to start your pct with everything lining up properly...............

[biglegs2006]

I can't extend the Cyp.
I am not runnig this to just get big.
I am running this pre contest. If I continue to run the cyp I will have to much water retention and look awful onstage.
That is the whole reason I am running the Prop at the end.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS PRECONTEST.

[Booz]

I can't extend the Cyp.
I am not runnig this to just get big.
I am running this pre contest. If I continue to run the cyp I will have to much water retention and look awful onstage.
That is the whole reason I am running the Prop at the end.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS PRECONTEST.

well extend the prop 2 weeks past the cyp then,then you can start your clomid therapy a day or 2 after............

[biglegs2006]

well extend the prop 2 weeks past the cyp then,then you can start your clomid therapy a day or 2 after............

I am not picking up what you are putting down?
Please explain.
I am stopping the cyp five weeks out to get rid of the bloat.
It is a long ester so it should still be in me for another three weeks.
Just when it is about to run out I pick up the Prop and stay on test but with alot less bloat.
If you stay on you shouldn't have to PCT until you come off right?
Or are you saying I need to PCT two weeks after coming off Cyp even though I am going onto Prop.