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    Really a short cycle, Any ideas ?!!

    Guys, what do you think of this cycle ?!! First one BTW

    Weeks 1-4 : Dbol 20 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED - Nolva 10 mg ED

    PCT :

    Weeks 1,2 : Clomid 100 mg ED - Nolva 40 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED
    Weeks 3,4 : Clomid 50 mg ED - Nolva 20 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED

    I am ready to get flamed....
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    wtf does this have to do with ur thread title. Can i Drink Winny?.......
    ummm this has nothing at all to do with winny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    Guys, what do you think of this cycle ?!! First one BTW

    Weeks 1-4 : Dbol 20 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED - Nolva 10 mg ED

    PCT :

    Weeks 1,2 : Clomid 100 mg ED - Nolva 40 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED
    Weeks 3,4 : Clomid 50 mg ED - Nolva 20 mg ED - Proviron 50 mg ED

    I am ready to get flamed....
    asides from the inept title of this thread......
    age and stats please,do you not like needles??
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    so in other words you plan on taking a cycle of PCT????

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    AND yeah, wtf does this have to do with winny????

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    bro you are 26% bf and you plan on taking dbol . even the small amount of 20mg ed for 4 weeks is not a good idea in my opinion. Get your diet and training in check, drop that bf%, then consider AAS

    stats posted in profile:
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    Body Fat %:
    26 %
    Training Experience:
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    Bodybuilding Knowledge:
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    Cycle Experience:
    No previous cycles , still researching offffffff

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    wouldnt bother with a cycle.

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    I don't get it, why did you ask about winny? I think the thread is an attempt at a joke.

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    26% and wants to do dbol only, lol!! you gonna look like a fat a$$ fo sure.. hold off and do some research, especially in the diet section as you are nowhere near ready for a cycle..

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    1 year of training and you've already plateued? well I must be a genetic freak since Ive kept gaining 5-6 lbs every year for the last 5 years naturally

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    sigh...

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    Wow...

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    i think ur a joker.......

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    First of all I was writing the thread while going to sleep ( actually sleeping ) so I cut and paste the title of another subject...

    I know that my profile says 26 % but that was a while ago, I am now about 20% and if you take a good look you'll see nolva and proviron through my cycle ( the one only consists of 20 mg ) so, don't you think these 2 compounds can keep any bloating or gyno away ?!!

    and also I read in another thred that 20 - 25 mgs dbol would be enough for you to get some gains if it's your first cycle ...right ?!!

    Help will be appreciated.

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    still keep dieting, i wouldnt use any kind of cutting agent until atleast im down to 10-14% BF.

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    I don't think BF% matters that much, you ever see powerlifters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dece870717
    I don't think BF% matters that much, you ever see powerlifters?

    I don't get it. I know powerlifters have high BF% .. you mean I can cycle with 20% BF ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    I don't get it. I know powerlifters have high BF% .. you mean I can cycle with 20% BF ?!
    Yes, thats what I was trying to point out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dece870717
    I don't think BF% matters that much, you ever see powerlifters?


    Re-read that post.....Notice that you said Powerlifters, not average joe with high bodyfat.

    Wow dude, nice comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Re-read that post.....Notice that you said Powerlifters, not average joe with high bodyfat.

    Wow dude, nice comparison.
    Ya and most powerlifters start off fat and average. And to clarify I said that statement because some guy could have 5 years of serious training experience and have 16-20% and for some reason people start saying you can't do steroids now until you are X% bodyfat or under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dece870717
    Ya and most powerlifters start off fat and average.

    Your joking right? Wow....

    Yep I'm weak and fat I should be a powerlifter it suits me.
    I'm slow, I should be a sprinter.

    Wow dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Your joking right? Wow....

    Yep I'm weak and fat I should be a powerlifter it suits me.
    I'm slow, I should be a sprinter.

    Wow dude.
    I edited my post to clarify why I said that. And secondly why do you have to say everything in a certain way to sound as offensive as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dece870717
    I edited my post to clarify why I said that. And secondly why do you have to say everything in a certain way to sound as offensive as possible?

    I sound like this to try to teach you not to post when you have no fuking clue on what your talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    I sound like this to try to teach you not to post when you have no fuking clue on what your talking about.
    People tend not to listen when you start getting offensive, people have pride and when you start telling them their wrong in the way your telling me they come away not learning anything and starts arguments. And yes my first comment was wrong with the way I said it. I was mainly refering to somebody with years of experience and high bodyfat using AAS. As seeing now that the poster of the topic has little experience I would say he should probably stay away from the AAS.
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    At first you said it was ok for him to cycle.

    Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    "I don't get it. I know powerlifters have high BF% .. you mean I can cycle with 20% BF ?! "

    Originally Posted by dece87017
    "Yes, thats what I was trying to point out."


    I'm glad you finally wized up. You could give harmful advice without even knowing it.

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    Doing dbol at 26% bf doesnt make a whole lot of sense. Basically the only thing you'll notice is another 20lbs of water, which will make you look fatter.

    Waste of $

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    IMO drop your bf% to at least less than 15% if im not mistaken

    if your at 20% or more, my god, you fat is gonna increase, it will do you more bad than good, you get those fatty cells multiplyin like crazy!!

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    Taking a steroid that aromatizes at a pretty high rate with that high of bodyfat aint a good idea..

    Estrogen will be runnin wild...

    I see you're takin nolva+proviron that will help...sure. I still see no point in the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    Taking a steroid that aromatizes at a pretty high rate with that high of bodyfat aint a good idea..

    Estrogen will be runnin wild...

    I see you're takin nolva+proviron that will help...sure. I still see no point in the cycle.
    Why can't you see the point?! I think I read once that low dose steroids for a 1st timer should be sufficient to make good gains with less side effects... I may pump the dose to 30 mg ED but first you've to see the point...

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    I salute you!

    Arrogance runs abound!

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    Mariusz Pudzianowski that power lifter is insanely cut for his size
    http://www.criticalbench.com/images/...dzianowski.jpg

    and yes you can drink all the winny you want

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