Bulker/Cutter Cycle

[Kevinjg]

Hi i'm 27, 5ft 8 inches, 186lbs. Done 3 proper cycles also used Tren in my last cycle which was Tren E 400mg week, Sus 500mg week they were both for 12 weeks, Airmidex on hand and Nolvadex for PCT also used HCG .

What do you reckon on my next cycle?

Week 1-12 - test blend 1ml 3 x week= 200mg Cyp and 100mg Test Prop.
Week 1-12 - tren e 200mg twice or 3 times a week, not sure yet?
Week 1-5 - dbol 30mg/day twice/day (60mg total)
Week 13-18 - test prop 100mg eod
Week 13-18 - tren ace 100mg eod OR Masteron 100mg eod
Week 14-18 - halo 20mg twice/day (40mg total)
Vitamin B6 through out.

I'll use Airmidex through out if needed! and HCG

Nolvadex for PCT!

Would you change anything?

[Facecrash]

you're tall!

[Kevinjg]

Correction, i was tall. LOL

[Lucius Leftfoot]

damn bro...is nolva all the pct you'll be using??

[Kevinjg]

I'll prob use some Airmidex as-well. also HCG .

[Valac]

id prob use clomid and nolva for pct.

[Kevinjg]

Why?

[hugovsilva]

For pct, hcg /nolva/adex is good.

But from what I see what you are doing is like doing 2 cycles with no rest in between, that's overkill IMHO.

[Kevinjg]

Which means?

Wouldn't you adise to do this?

[trenzbyotch]

i don't think you need that much test in there.. 900mg/week.. your last 2 cycles were 500. that would be quite a jump. why not run 3/4thcc 3xs week that would be 675mg/test per week.. 175mg/week more than your previous cycles.. also, tren for 18 weeks is too long imho.. 10-12 weeks is what i would do.. and do you really need 60mg/day of dbol at 186 pounds? 40mg would do you just fine.. summer is comming, are you wanting to look like a water baloon? might want to run an ai throught cycle...what's your goals?

[Decoder]

so what you saying is your going to stab your self 8 times a week?

[Kevinjg]

No! I'll stab myself either 2 or 3 times aweek, i'll mix the oils in the same syringe.

[trenzbyotch]

how bout:
test 675mg/week- 3/4cc mwf week 1-10
tren e 400/week weeks 1-8
dbol 40mg/day week 1`-4
test prop 50-75mg/d weeks 11-14 (4 weeks)
tren a 50-75mg/d weeks 9-12 (4 weeks)
save the halo

[danamial]

Why would you use both types of tren . I previous threads it was said that only one should be used

[Kevinjg]

I want the cycle to last 16-18 weeks tho!

[danamial]

Tren a and halo together is going to be ruff on the liver they both are very toxic. What are your goals you want from this cycle? strength/cut?

[Kevinjg]

I'm not going to take tren a at the end of the cycle! I want to put mass and strength on! then at the end of the cycle cut up a bit.

[FlyByU]

Tren a and halo together is going to be ruff on the liver they both are very toxic. What are your goals you want from this cycle? strength/cut?

Tren a isn't rough on the liver! I've taken tren a and halo together and didn't have any bad sides. My strength levels absolutely soared!
Kevinjg, why don't u take masteron at the end of your cycle instead of tren a and keep the halo in!

[Kevinjg]

This is what i've got it down too??

Week 1-12 - test blend 1ml EOD or every 3 days= 200mg Cyp and 100mg Test Prop.
Week 1-12 - tren e 200mg EOD or every 3 dyas, not sure yet?
Week 1-5 - dbol 30mg/day twice/day (60mg total)
Week 13-18 - test prop 100mg eod or should i hgo higher??
Week 13-18 - Masteron 100mg eod or should i go higheer??
Week 14-18 - halo 20mg twice/day (40mg total)
Vitamin B6 through out.

I'll use Airmidex through out if needed! and HCG

Nolvadex and HCG for PCT!

[FlyByU]

If it was me, I'd do a bulker and then a cutter but if you're dead set on doing an 18 week cycle and want to finish it off with a cutter, what you've planned will work very well so long as you eat enough calories when you're bulking and eat clean enough when you're trying to cut up. I wouldn't worry about looking a little bloated when bulking coz u live in the southern hemisphere and the weather will be getting cold pretty soon. You could take 3ml/week of the test blend and 3 mls/week of the tren enanthate . Be prepared to be benching a lot more than 140kg and don't get into any fights coz you will be huge, strong and dangerous on that cycle!

[Kevinjg]

What would you prefer Sustanon , Test E ro Test Cyp, yeah i got do a 3ml shot every 3 days, 600mg Tren E and one of the Test 600mg weeks

[FlyByU]

Test e and test cyp are virtually interchangeable but test e normally comes as 250mg/ml or higher and test cyp is normally 200mg/ml.
Sust 250 needs to be injected more frequently because of the shorter esters.
Why don't you inject 1ml of test blend 300 and 1ml of tren e on Mon, Wed and Fri and take the weekends off? Ever thought about doing that?

[Kevinjg]

Yeah that will be 900mg Test and 600mg Tren E! Is that to much?

[trenzbyotch]

Yeah that will be 900mg Test and 600mg Tren E! Is that to much?

yes, you don't need that much imho 3/4th cc test 3xs week 675mg/week
and 400mg/week tren e should be plenty!

[Kevinjg]

What about?
Dianabol 40-60mg aday 5 weeks? Maybe i'll leave this out!
Test Prop 200mg EOD for 6 weeks
Test Prop 100mg EOD week 6-12
Tren E 200mg EOD for for 10 weeks
Masteron 100mg EOD 6-12
Halo 40mg aday week6-12

Or just go with a 18 weeks cycle???

[FlyByU]

What about?
Dianabol 40-60mg aday 5 weeks? Maybe i'll leave this out!
Test Prop 200mg EOD for 6 weeks
Test Prop 100mg EOD week 6-12
Tren E 200mg EOD for for 10 weeks
Masteron 100mg EOD 6-12
Halo 40mg aday week6-12

Or just go with a 18 weeks cycle???

That looks terrible. Stick with what you had originally, but take 300mg test blend and 200mg tren enan every 3rd day instead of every 2nd. Keep everything else the same. Keep the dbol .

[Kevinjg]

I just don't want to get to big tho!!! I'm only 5ft 8, My mrs mother was speaking to me and have notice i've gone alot bigger! Ah well what the hell maybe every 3 days then! but o thought as i'm taking 300mg 200mg ctp and 100mg test prop, then the test prop wouldn't really do much!

[Kevinjg]

So would it be woth my while injecting every 3 days If i inject test which is Cyp 200mg & 100mg Test prop? Would i get the benefit of Test Prop?

[FlyByU]

Yeah u can get away with once every 3 days, but it may be best to shoot it eod just for the first month until the test cyp kicks in.