FrontLoading and Kick start of dbol OverKill?

**Suworu~Nutsuki** · 04-26-2007, 02:42 PM

Just researching at the moment but liking the sound of this for my second cycle.

wks 1-4 Dbol
wk 1 2x 500mg Test E
wks 2-12 2x 250mg Test E
wks 10-14 Winny
weks 14-20 PCT (Pct and Anti E on cycle is being researched.)

Long way off doing it yet so don’t worry about the stuff I’m missing i will come to this later on but last few days I have been thinking.... can you Frontload and do a kick start of Dbol at the same time?

is it going to be overkill? Or can it lead to better gains because the Dbol will be running along side of the Test instead of after?

Also another question while i have you here, I have read that Winny is very liver toxic so by doing these two orals in one cycle is it going to be just as bad as doing an oral only cycle which are frowned upon because of the stress on the liver? does it Kinda of defeats the benefits health wise of doing an injectable cycle?

Any help on these questions and my proposed cycle would be great!

thanks J

**SMAN12b** · 04-26-2007, 03:11 PM

Is your winny oral or inject? If oral, you got 9 weeks of harsh orals...

If you frontload, you may be able to cut the dbol by a week or even two

**Suworu~Nutsuki** · 04-26-2007, 03:19 PM

Its only hypothetical at the moment jst ideas in my head so dont have any of it.
just playing around with ideas of the diff compounds..... really want to try Dbol in the next cycle would it be ok to run it for the full four weeks and front load?

What would you say you would gain from running the winny at the end maybe i should just drop that all together?

**Suworu~Nutsuki** · 04-26-2007, 03:19 PM

Just to add planning on being desired BF before starting this cycle so want to use this to bulk.

**Suworu~Nutsuki** · 04-27-2007, 11:19 AM

any thoughts?

**Dangerdan** · 04-27-2007, 11:31 AM

I just started a cycle and frontloaded test at 1.2grams week on along with a 4 week dbol kicker at 40mg daily. I'm 8 days in and have already seen in increase in strength. Log: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...00#post3453600

I'm also going to be running winny at the end of the cylcle and oh yeah, I also threw in Tren . I think you would be ok with two orals since you have several weeks off orals in the middle of the cycle. I would take milk thistle and/or some additional liver support such as Liv.52.

**Dangerdan** · 04-27-2007, 11:32 AM

I'm also taking about .25mg adex daily which has kept bloating to a minimum so far.

**Snrf** · 04-27-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dangerdan

I'm also taking about .25mg adex daily which has kept bloating to a minimum so far.

lucky bastard, 2mg of adex didn't stop me bloating on only 500mg test.

blahhhhh

**Dangerdan** · 04-27-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

lucky bastard, 2mg of adex didn't stop me bloating on only 500mg test.

blahhhhh

I should say, it has stopped me from bloating so far. . . I"m only 8 days in.

**Dangerdan** · 04-27-2007, 01:36 PM

And what are you doing outside the lounge anyway?

**Snrf** · 04-27-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dangerdan

And what are you doing outside the lounge anyway?

Hey I only have about half my posts in the lounge I'll have you know

**Snrf** · 04-27-2007, 01:43 PM

I talk about what I know, as my cycle experience becomes greater so will the topics I feel knowledgeable enough to comment on..

at least I'm not in the Q&A section telling everyone to run their test higher than their deca etc etc

**Dangerdan** · 04-27-2007, 01:50 PM

I'm just kidding Snrf. Why would you wait until you actually have experience with cycles? Most people dont even need to try steroids to be able to give loads of advice on here.

**Idunno** · 04-27-2007, 11:44 PM

I am also planning on using dbol to jumpstart my cycle and also use the frontloading setup suggested lower down in the "frontloading explained" thread.