300 MG's of EQ- too little?

**Civic0** · 05-15-2007, 09:52 PM

Hello, Im going on gear in 2 weeks. 500 mg's of test cyp, and 300 mg's of EQ for 12 weeks...no front load, no pyrimid- just straight through. I respond better to lower dosages, and prove the fact that "more is better" can be false. I have never used EQ, and want to know if running 300 mg's is just a complete waste. I am bound to see results with 300 mg's, correct?

6'1
210 lbs
16% bodyfat

WHAT SHOULD I DO ? Please help me out....

**goalseeker** · 05-15-2007, 09:55 PM

300 is a bit low.. but good to start with and you can adjust accordingly

**SNUKA** · 05-15-2007, 11:17 PM

i dont even think you will feel the eq at 300mg especially when your test is at 500mg. eq is weak to start with i have never seen anyone go below 400mg a week. i tried it at 400mg and 600mg both with a frontload and i found the 600mg to be far superior and then it wasnt even that great. eq is nuttin to be scared of.

**Ryler** · 05-15-2007, 11:34 PM

EQ is something to be scared of...b/c first of all it does almost nothing in my experience, which is a waste of cash could've blown on something that actually works...like deca or test. And it raises your RBC count too high IMO I always have to give blood when I'm on it. I SWEAR I will never do EQ again and it is a waste of time, especially for how weak it is, how long you have to run it(14-16 wks) and it's damn RBC raising effects. But it will increase appetite as they say, but I force myself to eat too much anyways so that's not really a selling point....Good Luck!

**SNUKA** · 05-16-2007, 09:29 PM

yea i agree with you on that one ryler

**Civic0** · 05-16-2007, 09:35 PM

how many mg's of EQ were you taking that made you have to give blood?

**Megaherz** · 05-16-2007, 09:52 PM

I totally agree with ryler and snuka. At 400mg/week for me it didn't
do anything!

**mkrulic** · 05-16-2007, 09:55 PM

I ran it at 600 and noticed nothing

**andros00919** · 05-16-2007, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Civic0

Hello, Im going on gear in 2 weeks. 500 mg's of test cyp, and 300 mg's of EQ for 12 weeks...no front load, no pyrimid- just straight through. I respond better to lower dosages, and prove the fact that "more is better" can be false. I have never used EQ, and want to know if running 300 mg's is just a complete waste. I am bound to see results with 300 mg's, correct?

6'1
210 lbs
16% bodyfat

WHAT SHOULD I DO ? Please help me out....

You really feel progress in 400mg-600mg range. But EQ increase you appetive a lot, this is a GOOD "side", if you eat "clean meals" you grow BiiG!!

Specially if you eat 3,500+ calories, 45% protein!!

The difficult part of this, is not the training or roids, Is eat right and enough food to grow.

Good Luck!!

**andros00919** · 05-16-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

I ran it at 600 and noticed nothing

mkrulic, somebody scam you!!

Or you body are overstimulate from previous cycle or you don't use a REAL EQUIPOSE!

At 600mg noticed nothing??

Sorry Bro!

**mkrulic** · 05-16-2007, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by andros00919

mkrulic, somebody scam you!!

Or you body are overstimulate from previous cycle or you don't use a REAL EQUIPOSE!

At 600mg noticed nothing??

Sorry Bro!

gear was true.
what do you really expect from eq?

**Ryler** · 05-16-2007, 10:46 PM

I was running 400wk test and 500 wk EQ and I'm telling you it is some crap. I had to donate a pint of blood just to cure my lethargy. my buddy who was on the same cycle but running deca in EQ's place had much bigger strength gains from his cycle, the only way to hang was to out-eat him lol...and he never had to give blood. I wouldn't recommend EQ IMO

**vmapper** · 05-17-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ryler

I was running 400wk test and 500 wk EQ and I'm telling you it is some crap. I had to donate a pint of blood just to cure my lethargy. my buddy who was on the same cycle but running deca in EQ's place had much bigger strength gains from his cycle, the only way to hang was to out-eat him lol...and he never had to give blood. I wouldn't recommend EQ IMO

Some crap? I completely disagree, there are many variables and one would yours being not true eq. 400mg/week 12 weeks is plenty for a 200 lbs man.
Upside to a high RBC is the nice pumps! and oxygen to the muscle. EQ is much Leaner looking as you put on size when running with test. Vascular! Very noticeable. Eating thru the roof. and the gains are more solid in the end and months after than deca . Deca is much harder on the shutting you down, recovery is more difficult and loss of weight due to water retention is guaranteed. DECa is Much nicer on the joins and power! But overall in the long run... EQ just has more benefits than deca, long after the cycle is done.
I guess it all ***ends on how you go about it... I guess you could run anavar or similar at the end of a deca cycle to help solidify gains.

Just my opinion

**Ryler** · 05-17-2007, 10:33 PM

"not true EQ"....kinda like my test wasn't real and my dbol ? kinda like I put on a "not true" 23 lbs...oh, I guess you're right...

**vmapper** · 05-18-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ryler

"not true EQ"....kinda like my test wasn't real and my dbol? kinda like I put on a "not true" 23 lbs...oh, I guess you're right...

Might be.... Veg oil(your eq), REAL test and REAL dbol ... Your 23 lbs is VERY likely! Unless you analyse the eq or took it alone, how would you know?

the best of the best get junk once and a while... no such thing as 100% good dosing (200mg/ml) let alone what it is on ALL that you get...
It is not impossible to happen... your nieve if you think it doesnt.

**MorganKane** · 05-19-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ryler

"not true EQ"....kinda like my test wasn't real and my dbol? kinda like I put on a "not true" 23 lbs...oh, I guess you're right...

I am a little confused.
You say EQ does not do anything but you put on 23lbs during that cycle.

Are you saying that the 23 lbs came from ONLY the Test and dbol ?

If so how do you know it was only from Test and Dbol.

**vmapper** · 05-19-2007, 02:05 PM

Its ok MORGAN KAIN.. ... I think Ryler is the one that is just confused and contradicted himself....

I mean he did say a few posts earlier...
EQ is something to be scared of...b/c first of all it does almost nothing in my experience, which is a waste of cash could've blown on something that actually works

Yet 23 lbs... ?? 'REAL' as he claims...just as you pointed out.

So either EQ he has was fake and HE knew it... because he says eq is shit...(seems odd)
OR EQ was actually Real and OBVIOUSLY works to put on 23lbs.

**Ryler** · 05-20-2007, 11:52 AM

Ran a cycle of test E and dbol as a first cycle, made nice gains. For my 2nd cycle I decided to stack another drug with the test and dbol, I chose EQ, my training partner ran Deca . I noticed NOTHING different from running 600mg/wk of EQ in my 2nd cycle as compared to just the test E and dbol in my 1st cycle.
Meanwhile my training partner blew up on the deca, test, dbol cycle compared to his 1st cycle. My conclusion - EQ isn't a good steroid . I know everyone is diff, I am saying this IS IN MY EXPERIENCE. and it all had to be real as it was all from the same UGL....any other questions?

**MorganKane** · 05-21-2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ryler

Ran a cycle of test E and dbol as a first cycle, made nice gains. For my 2nd cycle I decided to stack another drug with the test and dbol, I chose EQ, my training partner ran Deca . I noticed NOTHING different from running 600mg/wk of EQ in my 2nd cycle as compared to just the test E and dbol in my 1st cycle.
Meanwhile my training partner blew up on the deca, test, dbol cycle compared to his 1st cycle. My conclusion - EQ isn't a good steroid. I know everyone is diff, I am saying this IS IN MY EXPERIENCE. and it all had to be real as it was all from the same UGL....any other questions?

No questions but I think your logic is flawed..

Good luck with that.

**jackman22** · 05-21-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ryler

Ran a cycle of test E and dbol as a first cycle, made nice gains. For my 2nd cycle I decided to stack another drug with the test and dbol, I chose EQ, my training partner ran Deca . I noticed NOTHING different from running 600mg/wk of EQ in my 2nd cycle as compared to just the test E and dbol in my 1st cycle.
Meanwhile my training partner blew up on the deca, test, dbol cycle compared to his 1st cycle. My conclusion - EQ isn't a good steroid. I know everyone is diff, I am saying this IS IN MY EXPERIENCE. and it all had to be real as it was all from the same UGL....any other questions?

Your first cycle is usually the best so if you responded the same from a first cycle then it obviously worked. Also think about it this way if someone did 500mg of test there first cycle and gained 20 ilb there now 20 ilb heavier and wont respond the same with the same dosage. So if you got the same results then well you know the answer.. also you cant rate somthing due to someone elses cycle (your friend) because everyone responds different to a cycle.