natural animal steroids?

**tadpoleboyy** · 07-18-2007, 05:45 PM

I have a question, especially for any vets. in here.

Do all mammals produce testosterone and estrogen? Or is it species specific? futhermore, does anyone know about non mammalian animals and what androgenic hormones they produce (i.e. a crab, a snake, bird, starfish, whatever.) ? Im curious as to whether or not such compounds have been experimented with or even isolated, if they exist...

**outofthebox** · 07-18-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy

I have a question, especially for any vets. in here.

Do all mammals produce testosterone and estrogen? Or is it species specific? futhermore, does anyone know about non mammalian animals and what androgenic hormones they produce (i.e. a crab, a snake, bird, starfish, whatever.) ? Im curious as to whether or not such compounds have been experimented with or even isolated, if they exist...

fascinating thought....off to google....

**Atomini** · 07-18-2007, 07:00 PM

Are you implying that other mammals COULD POSSIBLY produce anabolic hormones that we have never even heard of or don't know of yet?

**PEWN** · 07-18-2007, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Are you implying that other mammals COULD POSSIBLY produce anabolic hormones that we have never even heard of or don't know of yet?

thats what I got out of this to

**tadpoleboyy** · 07-18-2007, 07:04 PM

haha yes that seems to be the direction my thoughts are going, and im sure many of yours are too

couldnt we just farm raise some fish and extract the stuff from em? all ethical concerns aside...

**bpm1** · 07-18-2007, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy

haha yes that seems to be the direction my thoughts are going, and im sure many of yours are too

couldnt we just farm raise some fish and extract the stuff from em? all ethical concerns aside...

id love to know what makes a 200lb gorilla 2-3times stronger than a 200lb man, i'd take some!!!

**androbolic_09** · 07-18-2007, 07:30 PM

Well most mammals produce testosterone , because it was first discovered in birds and dogs, then they extracted it from pig and cow nuts. So mammals produce test. But yeah, id like to have the strength of a silverback gorilla!

**tadpoleboyy** · 07-18-2007, 07:31 PM

i want some of whatever tigers and lions are on, those cats are fvcking ripped to hell!

**androbolic_09** · 07-18-2007, 07:46 PM

their bodies are set up different from humans. they prolly have less aromatase enzymes and a more efficient HPTA. so they dont store much fat, but can stay built and shredded on one deer a day.

**Kratos** · 07-18-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by bpm1

id love to know what makes a 200lb gorilla 2-3times stronger than a 200lb man, i'd take some!!!

higher actin/myosin content (contractile proteins) genetic.

don't expect any new steroids to result from animals there arn't any. Growth factors and protiens are only backwords compatable evolutionary wise as well. For example hgh will work on a cow but bovine growth hormone will just piss off your immune system.

**tadpoleboyy** · 07-19-2007, 05:47 PM

well, they have been marketing ecdysterone, which is a insect molting hormone. So i guess you could count that. It seems that people havent had good results with it however. Ive seen a few studies, and i really think the dosages arent high enough. Im gunna give the stuff a try for PCT...

**tvd220** · 07-19-2007, 09:43 PM

ecdysterone....hmm interesting

**Kratos** · 07-19-2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy

well, they have been marketing ecdysterone, which is a insect molting hormone. So i guess you could count that. It seems that people havent had good results with it however. Ive seen a few studies, and i really think the dosages arent high enough. Im gunna give the stuff a try for PCT...

have an exoskeletin you want to loose?

**Pro_built7** · 07-19-2007, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

have an exoskeletin you want to loose?

BBBBFfffffff lmfao, this really is interesting,

**tadpoleboyy** · 07-20-2007, 06:25 PM

actually im trying to pupate, ive been in the goddamn cocoon for 3 weeks and i wana be a pretty butterfly.

**Pooks** · 07-20-2007, 06:32 PM

LOL off topic..

but i remember when i was 17 i bought some, perhormones (that stuff that supposedly attracts the other sex)

from what i've read, if it was even real, the stuff was extracted from pigs LOL..

so i only bothered to try it once, n i smothered this weird smelling shit all over me..

went out that night all cocky.. i dont remember if i got laid or not that night.. but that stuff was stupid! LOL