sex drive very low even on 1g test

**james21** · 08-03-2007, 05:25 PM

Cabergoline never did too much for my sex drive ... at alll but i did have a bad prolactin problem so maybe thats why. It did what i wanted it to do and thats it .. I would go clean and ride on some GH/igf as stated above let yourself reset

**sorel_C** · 08-03-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by mercedesdd

How did you use the HCG ???

First two days did 500, didt feel shit, then i bump up to 600 for the next two days, then waitied untill the followong week(started on monday btw), and just used 600 on monday, wedsday, friday, by the second week, i was bitting pillows waiting till i could get some *****,, I did this out of trail and error, it defentily did the job i was looking for it to do

**NightWolf** · 08-04-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by NewVader

4 weeks is not even enough for long esters to clear, let alone recover...Many people don't realize that if you are doing 600mg of eq/week you will have supraphysiological hormone levels (= still shut down) for about 7-8 weeks after last shot (just take the 16 days half life and do the math after a buildup of a few weeks or go to www.bulkmuscle.com)
so basically doing 12 on 12 off he is off only for 4-6 weeks, and doing 4 on 4 off he is never off, unless its only short esters...

this still does not provide an explanation for why he has no sex drive on 1 g test/week, there must be some other problem associated with that...

WTF dude do you see me saying ANYTHING about esters in my post?? or even in the thread starters post?? offcoruse its dumb to use long esters for a 4 week cycle.. but who is talking about esters here??

**Swifto** · 08-05-2007, 04:34 AM

You need to get BW done. Get a full blood panel done. Its the only way to see the root of the problem and treat it effectively.

**G-Force** · 08-05-2007, 01:12 PM

i dont use long esters for short cycle

YES this is affecting the porn business - i have done pretty badly in my last 2 shoots and am now taking a break from it completely until i can fix this problem

i have been on Dostinex for 3 weeks and still no joy

BW will be done in a few weeks

**Merc..** · 08-05-2007, 02:32 PM

Hey G- Force I know this is sorta off base but I have seen alot of guys over think the sex drive thing and actually make it worse ( in there head , they think about it over and over and keep dwelling on it making the problem worse) Not saying this is your case but just wanted to put it out there.. I have friends that have the same problem and the more they talk and think about it the worse it seems to get for them. When they try and forget about it and do things to keep their mind off of it the problems seems to go away.. I do personally think It Could be an estrogen / progest problem like I stated in my other post in this thread so well have to wait for the BW results to come back to have a clearer picture what might be the true cause !! Please keep us posted on the results !!!

Merc !!

**kal300** · 08-05-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by mercedesdd

Hey G- Force I know this is sorta off base but I have seen alot of guys over think the sex drive thing and actually make it worse ( in there head , they think about it over and over and keep dwelling on it making the problem worse) Not saying this is your case but just wanted to put it out there.. I have friends that have the same problem and the more they talk and think about it the worse it seems to get for them. When they try and forget about it and do things to keep their mind off of it the problems seems to go away.. I do personally think It Could be an estrogen / progest problem like I stated in my other post in this thread so well have to wait for the BW results to come back to have a clearer picture what might be the true cause !! Please keep us posted on the results !!!

Merc !!

i think i have the same problem, the more i think about it the worse it gets...

**G-Force** · 08-05-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by mercedesdd

Hey G- Force I know this is sorta off base but I have seen alot of guys over think the sex drive thing and actually make it worse ( in there head , they think about it over and over and keep dwelling on it making the problem worse) Not saying this is your case but just wanted to put it out there.. I have friends that have the same problem and the more they talk and think about it the worse it seems to get for them. When they try and forget about it and do things to keep their mind off of it the problems seems to go away.. I do personally think It Could be an estrogen / progest problem like I stated in my other post in this thread so well have to wait for the BW results to come back to have a clearer picture what might be the true cause !! Please keep us posted on the results !!!

Merc !!

thanks merc

yes i do over think it
but thats cos iu get money from sex (porn/escorting) and i cant afford to lose it

i am going on hol tomorrow so will try and relax

thanks

**Merc..** · 08-05-2007, 02:56 PM

Sex is money I feel ya man!!! Yea maybe it is a blessing your going on Holiday tommorow it might just be the thing you need to relax and take your mind off of things .. Have a good trip !!! Enjoy yourself !!!!!!!!!

Merc!!

Originally Posted by G-Force

thanks merc

yes i do over think it
but thats cos iu get money from sex (porn/escorting) and i cant afford to lose it

i am going on hol tomorrow so will try and relax

thanks

**Swifto** · 08-05-2007, 03:11 PM

When did you last come off everything?

You live in the UK (If I remember correctly), so why dont you go and see your doctor and tell him everything? He'll do BW on you or refer you to an Endo.

Again, this is impossible to treat without BW. Its imperitive. If you dont, its a guessing game.

**G-Force** · 08-05-2007, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

When did you last come off everything?

You live in the UK (If I remember correctly), so why dont you go and see your doctor and tell him everything? He'll do BW on you or refer you to an Endo.

Again, this is impossible to treat without BW. Its imperitive. If you dont, its a guessing game.

i was off for 4 weeks about 12 weeks ago

yeah i will get BW soon

**Swifto** · 08-05-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

i was off for 4 weeks about 12 weeks ago

yeah i will get BW soon

So your off now? And havent been on for 12 weeks. Your response is confusing mate.

You go a PM too.

**G-Force** · 08-05-2007, 03:35 PM

erm

i am JUST off now yes
been on for 12 weeks

before this 12 week cycle i was only off for 4 weeks (previous cycle was 6 weeks i think)

**Swifto** · 08-05-2007, 04:06 PM

What PCT did you run? Dosages, compounds, duration?

**G-Force** · 08-05-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

What PCT did you run? Dosages, compounds, duration?

the 4 weeks off
i ran 150mg clomid 30mg nolva and 150mg proviron ED

**go big or go home** · 08-05-2007, 10:06 PM

my dads the same way as you.but hes been using viagra thats the only way it works for him.and hes on Testosterone Cypionate from the doctor.at frist he was honry he said,but now hes not feeling it on 500mg a week.

**vitor** · 08-05-2007, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

the 4 weeks off
i ran 150mg clomid 30mg nolva and 150mg proviron ED

From personal expirience(blood work) ive found that proviron is supressive, even at yust 50mg ed, my T-levels did not return to optimal levels. After all Proviron is and AAS.

If the same is thrue in your case, you have never recoved in the OFF weeks either...Which could possible explain why these problems are occuring...

**Swifto** · 08-06-2007, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

From personal expirience(blood work) ive found that proviron is supressive, even at yust 50mg ed, my T-levels did not return to optimal levels. After all Proviron is and AAS.

If the same is thrue in your case, you have never recoved in the OFF weeks either...Which could possible explain why these problems are occuring...

It seems its suppressive for some, yes.

I'd go with some HCG with some Aromasin and Clomid, personally.

wk 1-3 HCG 250ius/ED (weekdays only)
wk 1-5 Aromasin 12.5-25mg/ED
wk 1-6 Clomid 25-50mg/ED

**G-Force** · 09-28-2007, 10:09 AM

ok BUMP for my blood test results
now i had a word with the doc and she really looked down her nose at me when i said i took steroids , anyway she would not be persuaded to test for anything that i suggested and told me she had to stick to the standard blood tust so here is what i got:

serum cholesterol 5mmol/L
serum triglycerides 1.3 mmol/L
serum hdl chol 1.3
ldl 3.1
hdl: total chol ratio 3.8

glucose levl 4
alkaline phosphatase 115 iu/L
alt/sgpt serum level 39 iu/L
serum albumin 34 g/L
total bilirubin level 9umol/L

liver test viewed by SF.gp comment: to be repeated.lab comment Note ALP? significance ? due to CKD

potassium 4 mmol/L
sodium 144
creatinine 133 umol/L
urea level 9 mmol/L
urea and electrolytes asked to repeat

haemoglobin 17.6 g/dL
white cell count 5.8 10*9/L
platelet count 192 10*9/L
RBC count 6.14 10*12/L
neutrophil count 2.3 10*9/L
lymphocyte count 2.5 10 *9/L
Monocyte 0.5 10*9/L
basophil 0.1 10*9/L
rbc distribut width 15 ratio
haematocrit 0.517 ratio
nucleated rbc 0/100 wbc
full blood count - asked to repeat

**Merc..** · 09-28-2007, 10:44 AM

Do you have some sorta kidney problems ??

Dam that sucks .. She ( the doc) wont run any hormone panels ?? Thats what you really need to get checked...

Merc.

**ironaddict69** · 09-28-2007, 01:59 PM

G-force arent steroids legal in the UK? i was under the impression you walk into the pharmacy and just buy them.

**Swifto** · 09-28-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

G-force arent steroids legal in the UK? i was under the impression you walk into the pharmacy and just buy them.

No.

Its legal to posses for personal use.

Its a grey area.

**Swifto** · 09-28-2007, 03:49 PM

G-Force.

You NEED to get a hormone panel done. Test, LH, FSH (if possible), Estorgen, Prolactin, Progesterone being the most important.

Click on the link in my sig for a full list of BW done.

**G-Force** · 09-29-2007, 03:50 AM

where do i get a hormone panel done

i have seen them on the ukdoc website but they are like £130 and i dont have the money right now - i have bills comming out my ears

40ml of test cyp has just been delivered though
i'm gonna get me lots of milk thistle, cranberry juice and B6 and jab tonight

**ottomaddox** · 09-29-2007, 04:14 AM

So, everything is fixed?, and your going to run some more Steroids to see what happens now? I think the 130 pounds it costs to get the bloodwork completed is a small price to pay to find out why your penis doesn't work. You make your living relying on your penis, sounds like you need to get your priorities straight first. You might even think about getting some psychological help too, as you sound obsessive about your steroid usage. Just food for thought.
Peace,
CR

**G-Force** · 09-30-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by ottomaddox

So, everything is fixed?, and your going to run some more Steroids to see what happens now? I think the 130 pounds it costs to get the bloodwork completed is a small price to pay to find out why your penis doesn't work. You make your living relying on your penis, sounds like you need to get your priorities straight first. You might even think about getting some psychological help too, as you sound obsessive about your steroid usage. Just food for thought.
Peace,
CR

my priorities are too pay my mortgage and my bills i am afraid
and if i stay on cycle i wont have any problem with my penis