Anavar gains for me?

[pete79]

Hi, I'm a fairly lean guy. 6ft 2'' 75kg. I have never used steroids before and I want to gain about 6kg. Please don't tell me about hitting the weights, eating etc etc, i've done that for years and wasted god knows how much time and money. It merely makes me more toned. Besides that my job doesn't give me the time to go to the gym all the time.

So ..

1.

Can a mild steroid (i want to start with something like this, because i've not used - and i'm concerned about outbreaks of acne/hair loss...go on laugh), namely Anavar /Oxandrolone, provide me with the gains I want to achieve? What dosage is suitable? I was thinking 30mg/day.

2.

Is Deca a more sensible option if Anavar won't give me these small gains (i believe it is easy on the hairloss too).

Thanks in advance.
Pete.

[kfrost06]

Anavar is not very good for putting on weight and since it's a DHT it is going to increase your chances of balding(if your pre-disposed to MPB). Do a low dose of testosterone for you first cycle.

[longhorn814]

anavar isnt gonna give you gains you want, deca might, but if you dont run it with test, you put yourself at risk of your dick not working..run a low dose of test for your first cycle..also post up your diet and tell us how many calories you eat on a daily basis and how many come from pro/fat/carbs...if you cant gain weight naturally then you wont gain much from steroids either..

[magic32]

anavar isnt gonna give you gains you want, deca might, but if you dont run it with test, you put yourself at risk of your dick not working..run a low dose of test for your first cycle..also post up your diet and tell us how many calories you eat on a daily basis and how many come from pro/fat/carbs...if you cant gain weight naturally then you wont gain much from steroids either..

Profound, as usual.
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My conversions may be off (I'm across the big pond), but at 6'2'' you should be able to naturally build more than 165lbs. I'm not JUST saying hit the weights, eating, etc., etc., but rather approach this more scientifically rather than haphazardly...there's a great Diet/Nutrition forum here that can teach you how, what and when to eat for gaining. Other resources include a Training Techniques forum and a Workout Questions forum.

And as mentioned by Kfrost and Long, neither of those compounds will give you the 12-13 legitimate pounds you seek. Generally a very productive novice cycle consists of 500mgs of Test ONLY, though some elect to begin lower.

[pete79]

Thanks guys.

I normally only eat about 2700 calories per day, but i bump it up to 3000 when i'm making serious efforts to gain. I've found a supplier that seems reliable (i've been quite picky about not buying from a dodgy lab, given that people have gone blind after bying wierd pharma over the net).

My reasoning for going with Anavar , was based on the fact that the elderly and people with HIV can make gains using low doses, so I thought that someone healthy like myself, who can metabolise food properly, will make a gain of at least 4kgs. I'd like a body like many of you on this forum posess, but in realistic terms it won't happen. My girlfriend might have other ideas about that too.

I have heard that Test can be very hard on the HPTA so gains are lost after finishing a cycle. BTW what is a 'low dose' of test for someone of my build? Test is certainly cheaper than Var so on a results/price ratio it seems a good idea. By test is propionate , enathanate or cypionate better?

[pete79]

thanks magic

[pimpdawgin]

Anavar is not very good for putting on weight and since it's a DHT it is going to increase your chances of balding(if your pre-disposed to MPB). Do a low dose of testosterone for you first cycle.

Anavar may be a DHT derivative, but I don't think it is going to be any worse for balding than test. or other stronger types of AAS. Anavar is milder in general that most others in other respects, too. It isn't very androgenic (which can accelerate MPB), and is more of an anabolic . Correct?

[kfrost06]

Thanks guys.

I normally only eat about 2700 calories per day, but i bump it up to 3000 when i'm making serious efforts to gain. I've found a supplier that seems reliable (i've been quite picky about not buying from a dodgy lab, given that people have gone blind after bying wierd pharma over the net).

My reasoning for going with Anavar , was based on the fact that the elderly and people with HIV can make gains using low doses, so I thought that someone healthy like myself, who can metabolise food properly, will make a gain of at least 4kgs. I'd like a body like many of you on this forum posess, but in realistic terms it won't happen. My girlfriend might have other ideas about that too.

I have heard that Test can be very hard on the HPTA so gains are lost after finishing a cycle. BTW what is a 'low dose' of test for someone of my build? Test is certainly cheaper than Var so on a results/price ratio it seems a good idea. By test is propionate, enathanate or cypionate better?

One major problem with putting on weight with anavar is it will suppress your appettite. This has been my experience with it. If you are looking to put on strength w/o weight, I'd say go for it. You want weight, not going to happen with anavar.

[sdc]

I just finished a 8 week 60 mg anavar cycle. I wanted to try no test and see what happens. I had excellent gains and they seem to be sticking around. It's beeen two months now. Also I did noitice a little loss in sex drive but I definitely wasn't shut down. Way easier on the system. Give it a shot. Also if it's your first cycle, you will probably make gains with 40mgs, If you want to do as little as possible.

[kfrost06]

I just finished a 8 week 60 mg anavar cycle. I wanted to try no test and see what happens. I had excellent gains and they seem to be sticking around. It's beeen two months now. Also I did noitice a little loss in sex drive but I definitely wasn't shut down. Way easier on the system. Give it a shot. Also if it's your first cycle, you will probably make gains with 40mgs, If you want to do as little as possible.

How was your weight gain? appettite? I have never done a var only before.

[taiboxa]

Hi, I'm a fairly lean guy. 6ft 2'' 75kg. I have never used steroids before and I want to gain about 6kg.
1) Please don't tell me about hitting the weights, eating etc etc, i've done that for years and wasted god knows how much time and money.

2)It merely makes me more toned.

3) Besides that my job doesn't give me the time to go to the gym all the time.

WOW is all i can say to this post.. hopefully i can open your eyes for you a lil bit.
1)- well since diet dictates EVERYTHING that occurs in ones body composition im going to TELL YOU, because obviously you do Not understand the importance of FOOD

2)- if it makes you TONE then either A ur not eating enough or B you need to start LIFTING and stop jazzercising. AAS IS NOT MAGIC! and you will learn this, if not by mistakes then hopefully by research.

3)- I know many people who make phanominal gains lifting 2-3x a week for 30-45min per session.. you know why? because their diet is SPOT ON.

aas is not for you.. the diet forum is.
im not ragging.. just helping by being honest... if u cant take it... then im sorry.

[haskell954]

I too am planning on beginning a cycle of Anavar , now that my diet has been in check for quite awhile. Hope it works out for you!

[Atomini]

Amazing how many people just do not understand that you can't build a house without enough bricks, no matter how many thousands of workers you hire.

[green22]

just run some test