Guess my Tren A just kicked in.....

**batlin** · 09-03-2007, 09:02 AM

So my cycle got a little f'ed but i finally started my tren a, 4 weeks in (going to run it for 6 weeks total) along with my supertest...
I have sachet Tren A dosed at 100mg / ml... So i have been doing .75 cc a day.. for the first few days nothing... I did tren e and was sweating like a fat man running on a treadmill with a donut in front of him... but nothing yet on the tren a.. till last night.. wow.. i woke up in what seemed like 2 in of water... So yea.. long story short i do believe it kicked in!

OH and then i found a lab result for my tren a... looks like it is dosed at 131 mg /ml so i thought I was doing 75mg a day, turns out i am doing closer to 100...... whoops!

**Merc..** · 09-03-2007, 09:53 AM

Batlin,

Keep us posted on your results.

Merc.

**akh 1985** · 09-03-2007, 10:00 AM

tenbolone is a very harsh steroid

judging by the pictures you posted less than a week ago i would say you are not ready for it

Pics of myself

i would say you are not ready for any anabolic steroids
I think you should get a new diet not a new compound to use

**getpaid** · 09-03-2007, 10:06 AM

akh is right...But whats done is done!!! After this cycle I would focus on getting your diet on point and try to build naturally for awhile!!

**goalseeker** · 09-03-2007, 10:59 AM

yes...I agree also... Be very careful with the Tren A.. I ran it for my 7th cycle and got into trouble.. Not enough H2o and caught Jaundice from it.. it wasnt fun at all.. the rash and itching from the skin pigment it produces almost put me over the end.. I didnt expect it to be such a harsh compound but it was way more than I figured. And that was after researching every corner of it for months prior. I wont run it again....

**batlin** · 09-03-2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by akh 1985

tenbolone is a very harsh steroid

judging by the pictures you posted less than a week ago i would say you are not ready for it

Pics of myself

i would say you are not ready for any anabolic steroids
I think you should get a new diet not a new compound to use

Yes i understand what you are saying.. but keep in mind that was just one days worth of food, i bring in a shit load of cals.. it may not be the greatest diet in the world.. but i physically bring in as much as i can without puking..
also, as I also said, I have very bad genetics.. I know there are plenty of people out there that think I, or 90% of the other people on this board dont need to be using AAS.. and they are prob right.. but the fact of the matter is.. I am, i am happy with how things are going with them.. and i will continue to use them...
With my last cycle.. I gained a lot, and I kept 90% of it.. it felt great.. if this cycle i could gain and keep half that.. i am a happy man..
And like i said, I ran tren e my first cycle (ok i'll admit that was dumb but i was a true newb) and i did good with it.. no issues and it was great....

thank you for the concern though... much appreciated...

**goalseeker** · 09-03-2007, 11:07 AM

100mg/ed is too much for a first time.. If your gonna run it anyways, I would suggest you lower it down a bit.. be safe..

**batlin** · 09-03-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

100mg/ed is too much for a first time.. If your gonna run it anyways, I would suggest you lower it down a bit.. be safe..

Yea, that was because of the overdosed, I have already cut it down...

**taiboxa** · 09-03-2007, 11:19 AM

with trenA it shoulda kickd in by the 3rd day.

**lightwaytbaby** · 09-03-2007, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

with trenA it shoulda kickd in by the 3rd day.

x2...

**lightwaytbaby** · 09-03-2007, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by akh 1985

tenbolone is a very harsh steroid

judging by the pictures you posted less than a week ago i would say you are not ready for it

Pics of myself

i would say you are not ready for any anabolic steroids
I think you should get a new diet not a new compound to use

It is???

**taiboxa** · 09-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by lightwaytbaby

It is???

i have never had any real health complications from it.
i get far worse issues from orals (even var as it dicks w/ lipid profile far more than tren ever has).
as for prostate, sawl'palmetto fixes that right up.
never had any kidney or hepatic issues from tren even at doses .. that are retarded.
its just the insomnia that makes it a bitch imo.. but its still better off than running an oral.

**batlin** · 09-03-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

with trenA it shoulda kickd in by the 3rd day.

this is day 4..
I am sure it did kick in, last night was the first i got the night sweets...

**lightwaytbaby** · 09-03-2007, 11:35 AM

b-i-n-g-o! tia!

**batlin** · 09-03-2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i have never had any real health complications from it.
i get far worse issues from orals (even var as it dicks w/ lipid profile far more than tren ever has).
as for prostate, sawl'palmetto fixes that right up.
never had any kidney or hepatic issues from tren even at doses .. that are retarded.
its just the insomnia that makes it a bitch imo.. but its still better off than running an oral.

Also, aren't all side effects personal.. ie: some people get them and some dont? Some people it is harsh and some it is not...
I know people think it is a substance that should be left till you have a few cycles under your belt, I did it first cycle as a recommendation from a friend (for which now i know, KNOW SH*T, but anyways that is a different story).. and i did just fine (no insomnia, no cough, just a little sweating issues) so i figure if i could do the tren e, i can handle the tren a.. if i cant, oh well, ill just stop it and it will be out of my system in a few days...

**taiboxa** · 09-03-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

Also, aren't all side effects personal.. ie: some people get them and some dont? Some people it is harsh and some it is not...
I know people think it is a substance that should be left till you have a few cycles under your belt, I did it first cycle as a recommendation from a friend (for which now i know, KNOW SH*T, but anyways that is a different story).. and i did just fine (no insomnia, no cough, just a little sweating issues) so i figure if i could do the tren e, i can handle the tren a.. if i cant, oh well, ill just stop it and it will be out of my system in a few days...

the cough really isnt an indvidual based side.. its just an occurance from the oil leaking into a knicked vein.

**gym_rat_jason** · 09-04-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

So my cycle got a little f'ed but i finally started my tren a, 4 weeks in (going to run it for 6 weeks total) along with my supertest...
I have sachet Tren A dosed at 100mg / ml... So i have been doing .75 cc a day.. for the first few days nothing... I did tren e and was sweating like a fat man running on a treadmill with a donut in front of him... but nothing yet on the tren a.. till last night.. wow.. i woke up in what seemed like 2 in of water... So yea.. long story short i do believe it kicked in!

OH and then i found a lab result for my tren a... looks like it is dosed at 131 mg /ml so i thought I was doing 75mg a day, turns out i am doing closer to 100...... whoops!

Hey bat, did u run tren on ur first cycle?? If yes, how was it ?? any sides that the peeps usually talk about?

**batlin** · 09-04-2007, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by gym_rat_jason

Hey bat, did u run tren on ur first cycle?? If yes, how was it ?? any sides that the peeps usually talk about?

Yea, even though i now know i shouldnt have, i ran Tren E.. 400mg / week for 8 weeks.. along with 500 mg test e.
The only side I had for the entire cycle was night sweats.. never had the tren cough or anything like that... I actually now am glad i did do it because I loved the feeling and gains.. which is why i am doing it again on my current cycle.. (i figure, i know i can handle it so might as well run it

)

**scriptfactory** · 09-04-2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by gym_rat_jason

Hey bat, did u run tren on ur first cycle?? If yes, how was it ?? any sides that the peeps usually talk about?

My first cycle was M1T for 2 weeks. Horrible sides.

Second cycle was Test Prop/Tren Ace/Var for 8 weeks. Sides weren't that bad (compared to M1T.) Ran the Prop for 2 weeks longer than Tren. Lost hella bodyfat and gained hella muscle. Awesome cycle. I want to run it again... in maybe a year or so.

**Markosterone** · 09-04-2007, 12:19 PM

im very sorry to say this but you do not look like you need steroids .

but hey, since you already started, I wish you the best of luck!

**customworksking** · 09-04-2007, 12:35 PM

1st cycle needs to be test-e ..imo

**scriptfactory** · 09-04-2007, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by customworksking

1st cycle needs to be test-e ..imo

Many people say that and for most people I think this should be true. I decided to run tren /prop/var. I am sooooooo glad I went against the grain in this area.

**goalseeker** · 09-04-2007, 12:43 PM

Everyones different, but for a first I would run Prop.. Good 'ol prop... cant go wrong.. I just started it a week ago with Drol, and gonna throw Tren A in at around week 4....then Var.....

**jaysunderstudy** · 09-04-2007, 05:22 PM

Yes tren is the most potent injectable on the market today, but I do think u got quite a bit of training to do before u mess with it again. I was a little auspicious about running it myself but keep us posted on what it does for ya.

**gym_rat_jason** · 09-04-2007, 10:06 PM

The reason why i am asking all these shit is due to the fact that i am currenlty runnin my test e and eq cycle for 15 weeks ( 6th week now) the strength increase is not as "magical as seom of them make it sound to be. Therefore, i was planning maybe to add in trean ace from weeks 8-14 since its a acetate esther it will claear form the body rather quickely therefore, i think stopping it a week before i end me entire cycle would be considered ok and then commence pct after 2 weeks (due to the test e) and PCT will last for 3 weeks (pct consists of NOL and Clomid) WHat do u guys think??

**goalseeker** · 09-04-2007, 11:22 PM

when I ran Test E it took 7-8 weeks.. too long for my liking...

**gym_rat_jason** · 09-05-2007, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

when I ran Test E it took 7-8 weeks.. too long for my liking...

YUp!!! agreed. I want to add in tren as i think i wont be running AAS often the i think the most will be 1 cycle per year thus, i wanna get the most out of the cycle thus the thought of adding tren what do ya think?

**Jenseno9** · 09-05-2007, 01:11 AM

I would drop the Tren if I were you. You don't have the body for it. Nor the experience. I have taken Tren before and after that cycle it took me a lot longer than usual to recover. I mean if you start with the strongest compounds now what do you have to look forward to in future cycles?

Originally Posted by akh 1985

tenbolone is a very harsh steroid

judging by the pictures you posted less than a week ago i would say you are not ready for it

Pics of myself

i would say you are not ready for any anabolic steroids
I think you should get a new diet not a new compound to use

**gym_rat_jason** · 09-05-2007, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jenseno9

I would drop the Tren if I were you. You don't have the body for it. Nor the experience. I have taken Tren before and after that cycle it took me a lot longer than usual to recover. I mean if you start with the strongest compounds now what do you have to look forward to in future cycles?

In your opinion wat kinda body would fulfill the rwquirement of using tren ??

**batlin** · 09-05-2007, 07:36 AM

Ok Guys.. you need to read what I have said.. i have USED IT BEFORE.. I KNOW the risks.. just because you see a picture of me (bad one at that) and you see one day of my diet.. yes I know i dont eat a sh*t load but I do bring in at LEAST 3500-4K cal. a day.. It isnt as clean as some of you guys but hey, i still get my protien, I just tend to bring in more carbs then most of you would say is good..
You all say that you need to be a certain hight / weight/ workout routine / bf% / diet to use tren .. and that is BS.. Some of you have GREAT genetics, some of you have crappy genetics, for me I got the short end of the stick on genetics.. To say I am not ready for something when you really know only 5% of the story.. is just pathetic.. here I am just posting my cycle results / experiences trying to add to this forum and all i have really gotten is sh*t from people "you dont need to be on AAS" "you dont need tren" "fix your diet" Honestly.. If my diet / workout routine and everything was so Fvcked up as you all say.. and I shouldn't be using stuff I am using.. then according to every post I have read i should have lost EVERY ounce of gains from prev. cycles and It would have been a waist of money and time.. and the fact of the matter is.. I gained prob 20-25 lbs on my last cycle and kept 95% of it.. strength and size and I feel freaken great... I feel so good, i waited for a while (longer then the recommended) and went back on cycle..
Yes I know I dont know EVERYTHING, but I have done a lot of research, reading etc and I know the consequences.. I choose to take them.. i feel I am ready and really that is all that matters..

You all make it sound like using AAS and tren is an elitist group.. sad......

**Random** · 09-05-2007, 07:41 AM

Gym rat jason, stop hijacking other peoples threads, no one cares about you and your tren , since youve already decided to run it your first cycle, hey why not add halo and anadrol too right

CD

**gym_rat_jason** · 09-05-2007, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by CaptainDominate

Gym rat jason, stop hijacking other peoples threads, no one cares about you and your tren , since youve already decided to run it your first cycle, hey why not add halo and anadrol too right

CD

Sorry for the highjack and NO i have not decided yet and thus all the questions for the original poster. Oh ya read ur thread regarding the var look good..

**rhino1** · 09-05-2007, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

Ok Guys.. you need to read what I have said.. i have USED IT BEFORE.. I KNOW the risks.. just because you see a picture of me (bad one at that) and you see one day of my diet.. yes I know i dont eat a sh*t load but I do bring in at LEAST 3500-4K cal. a day.. It isnt as clean as some of you guys but hey, i still get my protien, I just tend to bring in more carbs then most of you would say is good..
You all say that you need to be a certain hight / weight/ workout routine / bf% / diet to use tren .. and that is BS.. Some of you have GREAT genetics, some of you have crappy genetics, for me I got the short end of the stick on genetics.. To say I am not ready for something when you really know only 5% of the story.. is just pathetic.. here I am just posting my cycle results / experiences trying to add to this forum and all i have really gotten is sh*t from people "you dont need to be on AAS" "you dont need tren" "fix your diet" Honestly.. If my diet / workout routine and everything was so Fvcked up as you all say.. and I shouldn't be using stuff I am using.. then according to every post I have read i should have lost EVERY ounce of gains from prev. cycles and It would have been a waist of money and time.. and the fact of the matter is.. I gained prob 20-25 lbs on my last cycle and kept 95% of it.. strength and size and I feel freaken great... I feel so good, i waited for a while (longer then the recommended) and went back on cycle..
Yes I know I dont know EVERYTHING, but I have done a lot of research, reading etc and I know the consequences.. I choose to take them.. i feel I am ready and really that is all that matters..

You all make it sound like using AAS and tren is an elitist group.. sad......

WELL SAID

on you flamers.....you guys problably ain't all that anyway. People love to bump their gums.....post your pic and see what happens.....O' yea...POST YOUR REAL PICK....NOT ONE OF YOUR LOCAL GYM VET THAT YOU WISH YOU WERE.

**Jenseno9** · 09-05-2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by gym_rat_jason

In your opinion wat kinda body would fulfill the rwquirement of using tren??

I know i was kinda being generic. Im just saying imo i dont think Tren should be used in someones first, 2nd or 3rd cycle. Why? You can get the same results using less harmful compounds. I think certain compounds just don't need to be taken by newbs. Tren can give you different sides than compounds like test.

**Second2None** · 09-05-2007, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by lightwaytbaby

x2...

x3 lightwaytbaby & tai are right
damn ketchup packs

**peterbondra** · 09-06-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

Ok Guys.. you need to read what I have said.. i have USED IT BEFORE.. I KNOW the risks.. just because you see a picture of me (bad one at that) and you see one day of my diet.. yes I know i dont eat a sh*t load but I do bring in at LEAST 3500-4K cal. a day.. It isnt as clean as some of you guys but hey, i still get my protien, I just tend to bring in more carbs then most of you would say is good..
You all say that you need to be a certain hight / weight/ workout routine / bf% / diet to use tren .. and that is BS.. Some of you have GREAT genetics, some of you have crappy genetics, for me I got the short end of the stick on genetics.. To say I am not ready for something when you really know only 5% of the story.. is just pathetic.. here I am just posting my cycle results / experiences trying to add to this forum and all i have really gotten is sh*t from people "you dont need to be on AAS" "you dont need tren" "fix your diet" Honestly.. If my diet / workout routine and everything was so Fvcked up as you all say.. and I shouldn't be using stuff I am using.. then according to every post I have read i should have lost EVERY ounce of gains from prev. cycles and It would have been a waist of money and time.. and the fact of the matter is.. I gained prob 20-25 lbs on my last cycle and kept 95% of it.. strength and size and I feel freaken great... I feel so good, i waited for a while (longer then the recommended) and went back on cycle..
Yes I know I dont know EVERYTHING, but I have done a lot of research, reading etc and I know the consequences.. I choose to take them.. i feel I am ready and really that is all that matters..

You all make it sound like using AAS and tren is an elitist group.. sad......

I agree with you. To each their own.

For every self appointed "qualified" guy who uses tren (or aas in general) there is probably another self appointed "more qualified king kong type body builder" who will say the "qualified" guy should "not use aas and clean up their diet".

Your lookin pretty good and I am glad you are achieving strong gains. Keep up the good work and make sure to address side effects if/when they pop up!

**godkilla** · 09-06-2007, 02:22 PM

i just followed akh's link to your other thread that has your diet and i gotta say that it really sucks. with a diet like that you dont need tren , you need to learn to eat REAL food and quit making excuses. your drinking muscle milk 3 times a day and eating subway. not to mention 4 egg whites........thats like 12 grams of protein and that aint shit. learn how to eat real food and perhaps start precooking meals to bring with you to work so you dont have to eat garbage all day long.

**AandF6969** · 09-08-2007, 12:21 PM

+1 to what Godkilla said... you need to eat a lot more dude. That is not 3500-4000 calories from the diet you posted up earlier. Not anywhere close. I'd guess 2000-2500, and not really a "ton" of protein. You say you are a hardgainer... you need to eat a whole lot more than that.... you can make much greater gains fixing your diet than taking steroids . You need calories behind muscle, they don't just appear out of thin air.

Check out this thread. Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!

I weigh 190 lbs right now and here's my bulking diet. I've done 2 cycles, and had to quit the second one halfway through... that was 2 years ago. I've seen great changes since then with diet and training.

Meal 1 -
8 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 1 scoop protein, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2 -
1 1/2 cans of tuna, 1.25 cup oatmeal, some fruits and/or veggies

Meal 3 -
8 oz chicken breast, 2 tbsb peanut butter, granola bar

Snack before gym -
Apple or fruit smoothie

Meal 4 -
Postworkout shake
75g protein, 100g maltodextrin, 50g dextrose

Meal 5 -
8 oz sirloin steak, 1.25 cups brown rice, green beans, glass of milk

Meal 6 -
6 oz tilapia, 3 slices of wheat bread, cup of fruit

Meal 7 -
1 1/2 cans tuna, 1 tbsb flax seed oil