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09-22-2007, 05:55 PM #1Anabolic Member
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steroid gains?does it fade by time
i am starting to believe that steroid gains fade by time even if someone used it below his max natural limit,its a life style u must keep cycling at least every now and then as u slowly loose the muscle mass u gained while on cycle by time,even if your diet and training is in check,i am not sure if i am right or not and thats why i am looking for feedback from the experts here cause i am a newbie in steroid use ,i have read too much but ran only 3 cycles of test only so who am i to tell..thanks
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09-22-2007, 06:24 PM #2Originally Posted by fitguy
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09-22-2007, 06:45 PM #3
Well eventually it will from my experience even if you have your diet and training
in check. You just got to keep cycling. This is my opinion and results that I have had.
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09-22-2007, 06:54 PM #4
Something's wrong with your diet and/or training, then.
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09-22-2007, 07:06 PM #5Originally Posted by Atomini
don't count my calories anymore and I tend to eat more protein and less carbohydrates [I do try to maintain around my daily calorie intake ] because I start to get fat around my belly.
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09-22-2007, 07:11 PM #6
I feel it's all diet and how u wrkout I found i wrk harder when on a cycle then not....it's that extra edge ...now that I am off I made sure to pick it up and keep the cycle drive!....some ppl can look at weights and get big and some can not so,it will be harder to keep for some and not for others..imo
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09-22-2007, 07:15 PM #7
TIME will kill all gains eventually. We all get old. We all are affected by time no matter what. As a group bodybuilders fight aging, but it will catch up, so yes your gains will fade...you can grow old, or fight it tooth and nail (with or without steroids ). "Natural" means nothing to time. I look at AAS and muscle gains like money, money doesn't make you happy, but it sure does help.
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09-23-2007, 12:25 AM #8Originally Posted by customworksking
careful you dont injure yourself. Ive seen lots of people that try and continue that heavy lifting and tear something.
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Originally Posted by Atomini
I am no Jay Cutler i have been off the juice for two years but still managed to keep some what a good body..
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09-23-2007, 01:06 AM #10Anabolic Member
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Everything you gain over your natrual limit will eventually fade if you stay clean long enough, but you will be able to hold your genetic max w/o AAS.
Although, with GH, IGF you can create new muscle cells which will be a permenant change which will make your genetic max higher, AAS doesnt seem to be able to this according to studies...
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09-23-2007, 08:30 AM #11New Member
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Originally Posted by vitor
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09-23-2007, 09:00 AM #12
you will lose size and strength with time but yiou just have to keep on keeping on in the gym and with eating and it will help to keep your gains for a good while.
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09-23-2007, 09:25 AM #13Anabolic Member
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yes but not forever even if you managed to have a good diet and workout..
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09-23-2007, 09:36 AM #14Originally Posted by fitguy
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09-23-2007, 10:26 AM #15Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
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09-23-2007, 11:02 AM #16Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
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09-23-2007, 11:20 AM #17Anabolic Member
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i mean for a long time,even if you kept on working out and eating right..
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09-23-2007, 11:41 AM #18
Good question fitguy i was wondering the same thing. So say a person at 150 took aas and got to 200. Say his genetic potently was 210. So with out doing any more aas just keeping in the gym and keeping his cal intake and protein up. How soon would he expect to start having loss if any? Would it take him 8 years of naturally training to fall back to 160? I know no one knows exact answers but what do yall think on something like this?
Firguy not trying to hi jack just trying to ask the same thing in a different way.
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09-23-2007, 12:59 PM #19
The thing is this question is impossible to answer in such a general way. Everyone is different with different genetics, one person could keep all of the gains while another person doing the exact same thing could lose theirs. It's hard to ask a hypothetical question and expect a definitive answer.
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09-23-2007, 01:36 PM #20
for my own experience, sure with every cycle i gain more and if i dont work out i lose alot of my gains (normal), but when i start working out again after maybe 3-6 months, i gain just as fast as if i was on cycle, i mean seriously i see results after my very first workout, my theory is that i grow fast till i get just about the size i was before i stopped working out and then to grow past that i need some more gear... dunno if it sounds stupid lol
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09-23-2007, 08:14 PM #21Originally Posted by fitguy
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09-23-2007, 08:25 PM #22Originally Posted by critic7
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09-23-2007, 08:26 PM #23
i think in most cases if a person continues working out properly and eating properly most if not all gains can be kept, keep in mind im talking bout normal guys like u n me not mr olympia, i think they r in a diff situation as they r at physical maximums and id assume they need to be on all the time to maintain that kinda physique
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09-23-2007, 08:27 PM #24Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
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09-23-2007, 08:34 PM #25Originally Posted by bpm1
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09-23-2007, 10:40 PM #26
evenually u will loose them but i lift with a 70 year old who can bench 365
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09-23-2007, 10:54 PM #27Originally Posted by mario_ps2
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09-24-2007, 03:42 AM #28Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Maldorf
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09-24-2007, 12:27 PM #29Originally Posted by fitguy
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09-24-2007, 03:04 PM #30Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
How do you know his diet and training didn't also change?
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09-24-2007, 04:00 PM #31Originally Posted by critic7
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09-24-2007, 06:13 PM #32Anabolic Member
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if the answer of my question is yes then i think gear isnt the best way to go since you will spend money,time ,effort and will go through different sides to be in a good shape that wont last too much but i guess if that was the case no one would have used gear,right?
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09-24-2007, 07:51 PM #33New Member
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this is very disappointing...
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09-24-2007, 07:54 PM #34Originally Posted by MagicalTrevor
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09-24-2007, 08:02 PM #35New Member
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didn't want to take gear for years.....
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09-24-2007, 08:06 PM #36Originally Posted by MagicalTrevor
This video is a repost, but it is informative and could be enlightening for those concerned with cycling "too long"
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1m...ecial_politics
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09-24-2007, 09:11 PM #37New Member
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Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
still the old guys that have taken gear for years have weird necks and guts....even with no body fat...
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09-24-2007, 09:41 PM #38Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger
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09-24-2007, 10:45 PM #39
NO, they do not fade if your diet and training are as they should be... otherwise AAS would be pointless and no one would ever come off.
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09-24-2007, 11:23 PM #40Originally Posted by critic7
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