help with second cycle

**DaBoy7777** · 10-07-2007, 02:20 PM

I was thinking
test e at 600 mgs a week for 12 weeks.
d-bol 40 mg a day 1-4 weeks
deca 500 mg a week for 1-10 week.
What e- blocker should i be using for this cycle
and clomid for pct

stats,
6'2 200 pounds 7% body fat and 22 years old.

first cycle test e for 1-10 weeks kicked off with prop 50mg eod for 5 weeks.
and clomid pct

thanks much guys

**bpm1** · 10-07-2007, 02:25 PM

id say it looks good
i like arimidex at .5-1mg ed(i am gyno prone though)
and ur gonna wanna research pct because that cycle is gonna shut u down, HARD.u need at least one AI and one SERM for a proper pct and HCG would be especially nice after that cycle

**DaBoy7777** · 10-07-2007, 02:30 PM

I dont even know what hcg is! its like womans piss or something. Cant i just take clomid? What would be better that wouldnt shut me down? Besides deca ?

**bpm1** · 10-07-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by DaBoy7777

I dont even know what hcg is! its like womans piss or something. Cant i just take clomid? What would be better that wouldnt shut me down? Besides deca?

no bro it stimulates the testes so they come back alot faster, u dont have to use it, but it does help.you need some exemestane in ur pct with the clomid as well as nolva, JMHO
BTW i just finished a cycle similar to that(600mg of deca ) and my balls where the size of peanuts when i got done.im in pct right now and they are slowly coming back to size

**DaBoy7777** · 10-07-2007, 02:43 PM

should i drop the deca and go with something like eq? I dont want to have to use so much stuff in my pct! And i cant get hcg . the only place where i can get stuff for my pct is at ar. So what compounds do i need to get and how much do i take>?

**Big** · 10-07-2007, 02:32 PM

I like arimidex at .25 eod during cycle for an ai, as I am not gyno prone. everyone is different in this area.
pct needs work in my opinion.

**dhriscerr** · 10-07-2007, 02:48 PM

you have to run alot more eq to get the gains that less deca will get you, but deca will shut you down hard. I ran prop and Npp (deca) and it shut me down pretty hard, I don't think I would run it again with out even more HCG and I went through 8000iu's. Clomid and Nolva will be fine with test and eq, but if you go with deca, you need exemstane and nolva. But you are right, HCG is found in the urine of pregnant females.

**DaBoy7777** · 10-07-2007, 02:50 PM

well how much eq should i run?

**DaBoy7777** · 10-07-2007, 02:54 PM

its also been a year and a half sence my last cycle

**dhriscerr** · 10-07-2007, 02:55 PM

you need to run atleast 600mgs to get results, is what I have read alot on here. I have never actually ran it, so I have no personal experience, but 300mg of deca is enough for your first try at deca.

**SidewayZ** · 10-07-2007, 02:55 PM

I would run nolva @ 20 mgs/day. Spilt it 10/10 a day. Begin 1 weeks after last shot. Nolva alone should raise natural test by %150 almost immediately.

This cycle is a good cycle not too harsh. Dbol is the harshest and its only for 4 weeks to kick start the cycle (smart). Remeber that once starting pct your training should not be has intense as when on cycle but you still need to train.

Also not sure what your stats are but if you wanted to you could run some clen at the end of the cycle which may help keep gains as it is anti-catabolic.