putting in order for xmas cycle, just want the green light

**Crest** · 10-11-2007, 09:44 AM

just want tweeks or advise on the cycle im planning to run guys, thanks

week 1-8 600 mg sus, eod injections, frontloaded with 1200mg
week 1-8 50 mg tbol ed
week 1-8 .25mg armidex ed

pct
week 11, 100 mg clomid + 40 mg nolva
week 12, 50 mg clomid + 30 mg nolva
week 13, 50 mg clomid + 30 mg nolva
week 14, 50 mg clomid + 20 mg nolva

**Crest** · 10-11-2007, 12:05 PM

goog / bad? anyone run similar?

**Big** · 10-11-2007, 01:24 PM

wouldn't really need to fruntload the sust since is also contains short esters, but I don't suppose it would hurt.

RA · 10-11-2007, 01:34 PM

Why not run it out 12wks?

Originally Posted by web_uk_builder

just want tweeks or advise on the cycle im planning to run guys, thanks

week 1-8 600 mg sus, eod injections, frontloaded with 1200mg
week 1-8 50 mg tbol ed
week 1-8 .25mg armidex ed

pct
week 11, 100 mg clomid + 40 mg nolva
week 12, 50 mg clomid + 30 mg nolva
week 13, 50 mg clomid + 30 mg nolva
week 14, 50 mg clomid + 20 mg nolva

**Crest** · 10-12-2007, 07:01 AM

and run the tbol beginning or end?

**largerthannormal** · 10-12-2007, 07:53 AM

beginning

**bringndaheat** · 10-12-2007, 07:56 AM

go for 12 weeks or at least 10

**frignugs** · 10-12-2007, 02:09 PM

I think 8 week cycles are fine. Get on, get off and recovery is much easier. Also, for me, the 8 week mark is where my gains slow down. However, this can be combated by adding or increasing compounds or increasing calorie intake, but im not a fan of the big exotic cycles. Sweet and simple.

I wouldnt bother frontlaoding the sust, the tbol will take care of things, but besides that, i like the cycle

RA · 10-15-2007, 07:37 AM

Your gains at 8 probably slow because your not eating enough.

Originally Posted by frignugs

I think 8 week cycles are fine. Get on, get off and recovery is much easier. Also, for me, the 8 week mark is where my gains slow down. However, this can be combated by adding or increasing compounds or increasing calorie intake, but im not a fan of the big exotic cycles. Sweet and simple.

I wouldnt bother frontlaoding the sust, the tbol will take care of things, but besides that, i like the cycle

**realmafia** · 10-15-2007, 08:06 AM

Web UK Builder, cool ass avatar dude. I loved that show.

**Swifto** · 10-15-2007, 08:22 AM

I'd use Omna's. There far cheaper and the same as Sust.

**Baron** · 10-15-2007, 08:23 AM

8 weeks does seem short, but to each his own. Personally I haveto prevent myself from going overboard with 14 weeks and sticking to lower.

**johnmacdan** · 10-15-2007, 09:26 AM

On long esters, my gains don't get cranking until 7 or 8 weeks. I did a d-bol kick start on this one to see how it would work. Great gains so far, but want to see if I keep it up for the next 8 weeks.

Originally Posted by frignugs

I think 8 week cycles are fine. Get on, get off and recovery is much easier. Also, for me, the 8 week mark is where my gains slow down. However, this can be combated by adding or increasing compounds or increasing calorie intake, but im not a fan of the big exotic cycles. Sweet and simple.

I wouldnt bother frontlaoding the sust, the tbol will take care of things, but besides that, i like the cycle

**Crest** · 10-15-2007, 09:52 AM

well i figured if i frontload the sust (or might look at the omnagren stuff) then i can cut the cycle abit shorter and recover quicker because the sus would kick in quicker than cyp or enanthate ?
might stretch it out to ten now tho if thats the recomendation

**Crest** · 10-15-2007, 09:54 AM

was that on the sust or a longer test? iv never ran sust before

RA · 10-15-2007, 12:35 PM

If your going that route why not just use prop? Sus gains are still going to take a bit longer..

Originally Posted by web_uk_builder

well i figured if i frontload the sust (or might look at the omnagren stuff) then i can cut the cycle abit shorter and recover quicker because the sus would kick in quicker than cyp or enanthate ?
might stretch it out to ten now tho if thats the recomendation