Newbie and need some advice.

**marquel76** · 08-30-2012, 01:29 PM

I'm on my first cycle. I do it twice a week, 1cc each time. I use my glute for the site and alternate sites. I have tried warming up the oils, I use a different needle to draw then I do to inject, push slow, rub in, ect I get extreme swelling, redness, and heat at injection site. Lately it has been a few days after my injection. I am using straight test. Any suggestions to not make this hurt so bad? Tried my first one in top of leg and couldn't move for a week. Please suggest some pain free ideas. Thanks

**gixxerboy1** · 08-30-2012, 01:30 PM

what kind of test are you injecting?

AD · 08-30-2012, 09:06 PM

what esters? how much mg/ml?

**venturac** · 08-30-2012, 09:31 PM

What ester are you injecting?

**marquel76** · 08-31-2012, 10:55 AM

I'm using Test. Enanthate . I do 2 injections per week and 1ml per injection.

**gixxerboy1** · 08-31-2012, 10:58 AM

how many mg?

**marquel76** · 08-31-2012, 11:20 AM

Bottle says its 350mg

**gixxerboy1** · 08-31-2012, 11:22 AM

thats part of the reason. higher mg gear tends to hurt more. and your taking way to much for a first cycle. 700mg a week is way to much, i would cut it down to .75ml 2x a week

**marquel76** · 08-31-2012, 11:27 AM

So go down to 1/2 a ml or 3/4 twice a week? Then how long would be good/safe to stay on for my first cycle?

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-31-2012, 11:51 AM

I thought all test e was 250mg per 1ml. Well learned something new.

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-31-2012, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by marquel76

So go down to 1/2 a ml or 3/4 twice a week? Then how long would be good/safe to stay on for my first cycle?

12 weeks

**gixxerboy1** · 08-31-2012, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by marquel76

So go down to 1/2 a ml or 3/4 twice a week? Then how long would be good/safe to stay on for my first cycle?

yes drop yuor dose and 12 weeks is fine.
are you using an ai?
do you have pct?

**marquel76** · 08-31-2012, 01:00 PM

Ai? And post cycle I will be taking some pills. I was told to stay off cycle for time on plus half before starting back up. Sound right?

**Shsm** · 08-31-2012, 01:06 PM

Uh oh

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 08-31-2012, 01:14 PM

You want an AI to keep your estro levels in check. The top banner ar-r you can get adex or aromasin (stane.) I would personally get some aromasin.

PCT you'll want Clomid/Nolvadex which can also be found at ar-r. You need to know this rather then saying you're taking "a few pills" after cycle. You're just going to take pills and not know what they are? Cmon man you're going to end up hurting yourself.

I suggest you do a lot more reading and develop more of a concern for your own health!

**gixxerboy1** · 08-31-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by marquel76

Ai? And post cycle I will be taking some pills. I was told to stay off cycle for time on plus half before starting back up. Sound right?

you should be using an ai already
some pills? need a little more details. This is your health you should be a little more educated

**marquel76** · 08-31-2012, 01:41 PM

The "pills" are Clomid. I know what I am taking post cycle, didn't know it was that important for the name of them to be posted

**ppwc1985** · 08-31-2012, 04:29 PM

Needed to research more before starting cycle

**denverpride** · 08-31-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by marquel76

The "pills" are Clomid. I know what I am taking post cycle, didn't know it was that important for the name of them to be posted

Whoa slow down. People here are looking out for your best interest and want to the details of what YOU know. Gix knows his stuff so you should be mindful to get some proper feedback.

**marquel76** · 09-01-2012, 01:02 PM

I def need somw good advice. That's why I'm here. I went off advice from several I've known for yrs that have done things with great results but I'm findin out there's a lot they aren't doin or sharing.

**marquel76** · 09-01-2012, 01:06 PM

I def need some good advice. That's why I'm here. I went off advice from several I've known for yrs that have done things with great results but I'm findin out there's a lot they aren't doin or sharing.

**marquel76** · 09-01-2012, 01:12 PM

Gix, is there a way for us to chat that isn't open forum?

**gixxerboy1** · 09-01-2012, 01:25 PM

no, you havent been here long enough or have enough post to private message. you need 50 post and be here 30 days

**marquel76** · 09-01-2012, 01:27 PM

Well Gix I'm tryin to find out what I need to correctly do to maximize things as healthy as I can. Obviously goin off what friends say, regardless of their results, isn't what to do. I should have researched more myself rather than talkin to people I know. So can you help me?

**gixxerboy1** · 09-01-2012, 01:30 PM

if you want to do it safer and healthier. you need to start using an ai now. such as a-dex or aromasin . Both can be purchased from ar-r . also you will need nolva to go along with your clomid for pct