Tren and prop has been my worst....

**paddy155** · 10-18-2007, 12:58 PM

experience yet. I have done a few cycles previous,mainly test enan,sust and deca . I decided I felt like a change was in order. I bought my juice for my next cycle. I was planning on running it for 12 wks. WK 1-12 test prop 100mg ed and WK 1-10 tren ace 100mg ed. Well Guy's I made it as far as 8 days and that was me pushing the pain barrier to the limit. I did not seem have so much a problem sleeping but did have a lot of dreams and did wake up rather regular. My problem was that every muscle I injected into I could not hardly move for about 4 days. I injected into my right quad firstly and for the next 4 days was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. I the injected my left quad the next day and honestly Guy's,I could hardly walk. Could hardly get into my car,could definetly not train,had even to get my girlfriend to take my socks off for a shower as I could not bend my leggs.This was the same for all the muscles I injected in to. It has been 3 days since my last injection and my muscles are still very tender. Think I will just keep things simple from now on,test only cycles. Having to jag every day is not very pleasant either. Out of my 4 cycles I have done,i must admit the best gains I made were on a simple cycle of test enan at 750mg per week for 13 weeks. Just thought I would share my experience Guy's.

**smallpuppy** · 10-18-2007, 01:51 PM

It seams like you have some bad stuff

**longhorn814** · 10-18-2007, 02:07 PM

that sucks bro..sorry to hear that..you need to find another source if thats the case..prop can be very crippling...I love prop/tren its a great combo

**ironaddict69** · 10-18-2007, 02:09 PM

Yeah bro, thats something wrong with the gear. what were your gains of the 750 mg test a week? was it your first?

**goin on 4T** · 10-18-2007, 10:43 PM

Are those virgin muscles? Yes I would try other gear. Take a hot shower after inject or go to gym with in 1hr. after injection. Don't message area after injection potential for moving it into sub-q area. Put heating pad on the muscle for a while also strech the muscle. The more it locks up the more you need to strech... Get the blood in the muscle and get the gear out! The pain goes down as the muscles get used to the oils.

**J*U*icEd** · 10-18-2007, 11:10 PM

sounds like your recent cycle experience isn't going so well.... sorry to hear about this cycle... it could just be virgin muscles?!... or could be the gear, try mixing it wit sterile oil or B12, that may take some of the pain away...

**Dizz28** · 10-18-2007, 11:36 PM

100mgs/d of prop would do that to me...i'm pretty sensitive to it, I can't do more than 50mgs/day withour some severe pain

**jaysunderstudy** · 10-18-2007, 11:43 PM

You might wanna try cutting it with sum oils like grapeseed oil from those chem sites I bought sum a while back just in case. i'm still using my last vial from my now shut down lab but its good stuff tho. Tren /Prop ur muscles outta be hard as a brick. You could thrown sum Winny in the mix there and got really ripped results.

**J*U*icEd** · 10-19-2007, 02:47 AM

yea winny.... add extra pain into his already very painful cycle...

**carrick2200** · 10-19-2007, 07:15 AM

I was the exact same. I couldn't walk at one point. I partly solved it by mixing the tren and prop in the barrel well before jabbing. Then i solved it completely by buying some oil and mixing that in with it all in the barrel. Now i have no pain whatsoever.....none!

**millionairemurph** · 10-19-2007, 08:35 AM

i dont think its the tren and prop it the fact that your source made it wrong. too much ba maybe? I added WAY to much ba on accident once and my shit hurt for 4 days too. Luckily i only did that on one vial.

**runninpony** · 10-19-2007, 10:12 AM

Im on the same cycle and my stuff is almost completely painless,,,and the results are amazing, I look like a whole other person now after only 12 days/ Find you some different gear. Oh and I was running winny but had to stop it because it made my joints start hurting like a mofo...

**cookiemonstR** · 10-19-2007, 11:26 AM

sounds like to much ba, or maybe to concetrated, sounds like your source fvcked up

**paddy155** · 10-19-2007, 01:56 PM

does anyone know where I can buy grapeseed oil for injecting in the uk. I am not sure what is the right stuff. Maybe I need to cut this stuff Guy's. I do trust my source. Everything so far has been legit.